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by nightcruiser
Sun Aug 14, 2022 4:28 pm
Forum: Technical Help
Topic: 50 elite / SE50P hard start?
Replies: 12
Views: 1981

Re: 50 elite / SE50P hard start?

Following up on the end result here. I had to bend the exhaust pipe a bit to make it line up with mounting bolts after I installed the Malossi Big Bore cylinder, not a huge deal, but just a warning this is not a "drop in fit" replacement. It started up great first try, I let it warm fully ...
by nightcruiser
Mon Aug 01, 2022 8:05 pm
Forum: Technical Help
Topic: 50 elite / SE50P hard start?
Replies: 12
Views: 1981

Re: 50 elite / SE50P hard start?

I went ahead with the Malossi Aero / SE50 72cc Big Bore Cylinder Kit over the weekend, here are some things I learned in the process. First off, reminder that my issue is not starting with the starter, but does start with a kick, reliably. Runs OK but not great, but still reliable. I did compression...
by nightcruiser
Mon Jul 25, 2022 11:46 pm
Forum: Technical Help
Topic: 50 elite / SE50P hard start?
Replies: 12
Views: 1981

Re: 50 elite / SE50P hard start?

Yep, I did compression test with throttle wide open for several rounds of cranking with the starter and then kicking. I did the compression test again today after testing the lawn mower, same result. From what I read in forums it shouldn't run with less than 90 PSI, so maybe the meter is somewhat of...
by nightcruiser
Mon Jul 25, 2022 5:41 pm
Forum: Technical Help
Topic: 50 elite / SE50P hard start?
Replies: 12
Views: 1981

Re: 50 elite / SE50P hard start?

Well, I put the compression tester on the engine and the compression read woefully low, seeming too low to run at 60 PSI? I bought a mid level compression test kit on Amazon with good reviews, it has the schrader valve on the hose etc, and does hold compression value well... I am gonna throw it on t...
by nightcruiser
Wed Jul 20, 2022 7:55 pm
Forum: Technical Help
Topic: 50 elite / SE50P hard start?
Replies: 12
Views: 1981

Re: 50 elite / SE50P hard start?

I had previously pulled the bolts on the intake but it was so firmly in place I couldn't pull it off, I thought maybe I missed a bolt but maybe it was just glued down with that HondaBond stuff? I didn't want to force it out so I didn't get to look at the reeds... I kick started it today and warmed i...
by nightcruiser
Tue Jul 19, 2022 11:02 pm
Forum: Technical Help
Topic: 50 elite / SE50P hard start?
Replies: 12
Views: 1981

Re: 50 elite / SE50P hard start?

Thanks a bunch for your input. I have run a brand new aftermarket carb and was still having he hard start issues. I did a Berryman parts dip on the oem carb, then blew through all the passages with carb cleaner as you suggested, same issues. I also changed the battery thinking perhaps it wasn't turn...
by nightcruiser
Tue Jul 19, 2022 6:22 pm
Forum: Technical Help
Topic: 50 elite / SE50P hard start?
Replies: 12
Views: 1981

Re: 50 elite / SE50P hard start?

PS
I have all the body panels completely removed for painting, so getting at things for testing right now is a breeze...
by nightcruiser
Tue Jul 19, 2022 6:19 pm
Forum: Technical Help
Topic: 50 elite / SE50P hard start?
Replies: 12
Views: 1981

Re: 50 elite / SE50P hard start?

I'd have to buy a compression tester, which is no biggie really.... but since it starts well with a kick and runs well once started isn't it safe to assume it has enough compression? Wouldn't I see other issues like NO start or low speed, poor idle, stalling etc if compression was bad? That said, I ...
by nightcruiser
Tue Jul 19, 2022 12:43 am
Forum: Technical Help
Topic: 50 elite / SE50P hard start?
Replies: 12
Views: 1981

50 elite / SE50P hard start?

Hi everyone! I've had an elite 50 (1987 SE50P) for a few years now, it always started great, barely had to turn over to start. Lately I have had a problem starting, it will rarely start with the starter but if I kick it and give it some throttle it will start. This is cold and hot. I have tried seem...
by nightcruiser
Sun Jul 19, 2015 10:22 pm
Forum: Performance Technical
Topic: Speed up SE50P?
Replies: 23
Views: 15609

Re: Speed up SE50P?

Just thought I would pop in for an update. I sourced an exhaust and a carb from an '87 Aero and a new genuine Honda #85 jet. The Aero carb came with a #78 jet but has some different emulsion tube that I was told would make the jet perform as if it were bigger. I debated a while and decided the first...
by nightcruiser
Fri May 22, 2015 5:58 pm
Forum: Performance Technical
Topic: Speed up SE50P?
Replies: 23
Views: 15609

Re: Speed up SE50P?

Yah, I got that 3 years ago when I first resurrected this scooter.... but I guess I didn't realize until just now that it covers the restricted and non restricted model. Looking at the carb section here it shows my SE50P having the #82 jet as I had expected to see, so the WIKI page is wrong on that ...
by nightcruiser
Fri May 22, 2015 5:17 pm
Forum: Performance Technical
Topic: Speed up SE50P?
Replies: 23
Views: 15609

Re: Speed up SE50P?

I just took a look at the tags, on the gas tank it says "SE50P H -A" The "H" has a circle around it on the tag. Under the carriage I found another tag showing "JH2AF 121 1 HS00XXXX".... both of which confirm this is the semi-restricted model in the center column on the ...
by nightcruiser
Fri May 22, 2015 4:52 pm
Forum: Performance Technical
Topic: Speed up SE50P?
Replies: 23
Views: 15609

Re: Speed up SE50P?

Going by the chart on the WIKI on that... and assuming I have the SE50P A (not AA) from the air box. But now that you question it I am going to go out and check the serial number and compare it to the list to be sure.
by nightcruiser
Fri May 22, 2015 4:47 pm
Forum: Performance Technical
Topic: Speed up SE50P?
Replies: 23
Views: 15609

Re: Speed up SE50P?

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by nightcruiser
Fri May 22, 2015 4:36 pm
Forum: Performance Technical
Topic: Speed up SE50P?
Replies: 23
Views: 15609

Re: Speed up SE50P?

Yah, the final drive is another issue, I see the non restricted SE50 definitely has a different gear ratio there, but this seems to be the most difficult and expensive part for me to upgrade.... unless I can find a junk unrestricted SE50, which would be a godsend actually, cause it would have all th...