update on the scoots.

MySpree · Post by **MySpree** » Thu Jun 15, 2006 11:52 am

too bad i want a crome cluch bell.

darat · Post by **darat** » Thu Jun 15, 2006 11:28 pm

thats going to cost some$$

hrnytrtlsgsxr · Post by **hrnytrtlsgsxr** » Fri Jun 16, 2006 12:40 am

bitteraspects wrote:but as you know as well as everyone else, i dont tune for speed, no s*** your bike is faster themn mine. also i dont have a stroker pipe on my bike. the clutch has nothing to do with your bike being faster.

i f you wanna I'll put the sef black on the G and we'll see about the clutch or is it just tuning?being rich is only for long * uphill hauls, not for everyday riding.

hrnytrtlsgsxr · Post by **hrnytrtlsgsxr** » Fri Jun 16, 2006 1:08 am

bitteraspects wrote:but as you know as well as everyone else, i dont tune for speed, no s*** your bike is faster themn mine. also i dont have a stroker pipe on my bike. the clutch has nothing to do with your bike being faster.

also if you don't tune for speeed how do you knoe that the clutch doesn't affect speed. is iot here say ar actual usage. if you wanna prove me wrong like i said I'll put the sef black on the G and we'll test the clutch theory of yours.You do have a shane miyaki motor with several cc on me. When you wanna do this. chucs.

bitteraspects · Post by **bitteraspects** » Fri Jun 16, 2006 9:31 am

you can talk all you want, but you know just as well as everyone else that i dont race, so save it.
and i have tryed other clutches, so i do know whats up.

like i said. in this case, its no use to him. read back to my previous post. i said, untill you get into fine tuning, you dont need to worry about a clutch, or any of the other fine tuning parts. not to mention, the stock clutch is ALWAYS gonna be more reliable.

Farfignugin · Post by **Farfignugin** » Fri Jun 16, 2006 9:44 am

bitteraspects is right...clutch bell has nothing to do with speed

ALTHOUGH...it does have something to do with efficiency, a performance clutch will TRANSFER the power of the engine to the tires more efficiently than a stock one, however, it wont deal anything with making the bike/scooter/moped/whatever faster.

hrnytrtlsgsxr · Post by **hrnytrtlsgsxr** » Fri Jun 16, 2006 11:56 am

bitteraspects wrote: getting a new clutch wont really make a difference, and will just waste your money..

you have it wrong since you said you tried other clutches but since you don't tune to race period how do you know that other clutches are not better.the difference is in application of the knowledge not just theory.Your application has no merit. The differences I had has been 5+miles on different clutches with different cc motors. Even on an 85cc motor it made a difference not just a stroker.5+ miles is alot for just a mere clutch. So you think that is a difference you can disregard? there is my proof in the pudding of what other clutches can do with trial and error and since I do want the most speed unlike you I do know that clutches make a difference.

Farfignugin · Post by **Farfignugin** » Fri Jun 16, 2006 12:00 pm

if he has tried other clutches and they made a difference, do you think he would of said that?

MySpree · Post by **MySpree** » Fri Jun 16, 2006 12:57 pm

ok so if you tne for speed then cluches help.

Farfignugin · Post by **Farfignugin** » Fri Jun 16, 2006 1:24 pm

performance clutches only help with clutch slip. They slip less, therefore more transfer of engine speed rather than loosing it from slipping.

darat · Post by **darat** » Fri Jun 16, 2006 2:09 pm

yeah they will help alot

bitteraspects · Post by **bitteraspects** » Fri Jun 16, 2006 2:12 pm

darat wrote:yeah they will help alot

wrong

bitteraspects · Post by **bitteraspects** » Fri Jun 16, 2006 2:14 pm

Farfignugin wrote:performance clutches only help with clutch slip. They slip less, therefore more transfer of engine speed rather than loosing it from slipping.

no. they also add less rotational mass, freeing up your trans for further preformance, and allow you to fine tune your power band.

darat · Post by **darat** » Fri Jun 16, 2006 2:14 pm

bitteraspects wrote:
darat wrote:yeah they will help alot
wrong

AH i was talking about the sliping

bitteraspects · Post by **bitteraspects** » Fri Jun 16, 2006 2:16 pm

MySpree wrote:ok so if you tne for speed then cluches help.

not exactly...

when you get heavy into preformance parts, and you start to fine tune your trans, thats when you want to get into clutches, cdi's, rotor kits, port timing, ect...

but as you dont even have a cylender on yet, a clutch is the least of your worrys.