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Don't call me "h*****"

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 10:40 am
by noiseguy
Guys: Wanted to quickly set expectations about a word that I've seen on the board a few times. h*****, which if you've ever been to HI, you've probably heard at one point or another.

A h***** means white guy; by definition someone not of Polynesian descent. The meaning and etymology is debatable, but I treat it like I would the term whitey, cracker, gringo, etc. It gets used as shorthand for mainlanders or tourists at times... if that's the case, just say that, it doesn't convey race.

This is a scooter board, not a treatise on race relations (or religion, or politics for that matter) Stick to the scooters and everything fine.

Thanks, NG

Re: Don't call me "h*****"

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 11:19 am
by wilit
Can we still refer to Canadians as snowbacks? d*** snowbacks coming down here taking all our hockey jobs and eating all our maple syrup.

Re: Don't call me "h*****"

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 12:09 pm
by SuprasNsprees
love the title , if it's a reference to what i think it is
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ik09xFT6mk

Re: Don't call me "h*****"

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 12:12 pm
by Munstah666
RE: Mr. noiseguy

THANK YOU, that's exactly what it means. It's meaning highly depends on its usage, NOT RACIST as some may people think. I have lots of cool "h*****" friends and even them knows. Some people do abuse the word sometimes. Aloha!

Re: Don't call me "h*****"

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 12:19 pm
by bradthreee
I don't think they mean it in a racist type of way, just another way of saying white dude. FYI "gringo" isn't racist either....

Re: Don't call me "h*****"

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 12:36 pm
by wiguy05
Nice work, Noise. :2thumbs:


Whats with all the young punk trash around here lately? Everyone giving up on FH.com? :jack:

Re: Don't call me "h*****"

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 12:54 pm
by swimmingfree
its not how its meant its how its taken that what mater !!! i have friends of ???? and they call me a ??? but the other around us may get * over what is said .. if you tell a off color joke at work to a friend and the wrong person hears it you can get caned .. no if and or buts!!! its dose not mater if that person was not suppose to hear it they did and your gone ..
swimmingfree

Re: Don't call me "h*****"

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 5:54 pm
by noiseguy
SuprasNsprees wrote:love the title , if it's a reference to what i think it is
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ik09xFT6mk
Close: Frijolero by MoLoTOv. Lyrics NSFW.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXy21lf_uso

Brad, every time I've been called a gringo, it's been negative. It's another word that falls into unclear usage and meaning and relies on context... the problem (and advantage) with online communications is that context is limited: relationships and status are leveled, there's no body language or spacial context, etc. It's easier to offend and be offended. Limiting this language is just another way to set expectations on how we talk to each other.

Re: Don't call me "h*****"

Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 1:59 pm
by bradthreee
I understand what you are saying Jason, but growing up very multi cultural environment I can say this:

Gringo is a word that I heard often. Guero or Guerito is another. Those words were used to describe a white guy, in a very similar way as h***** Im sure. Smiles came hand in hand when those words were used.

Re: Don't call me "h*****"

Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 4:28 pm
by Spreetard

Re: Don't call me "h*****"

Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 7:37 pm
by kingkamehameha
h***** literally means without breath. When the hawaiians first saw white people they thought they were gods. The pale skin of the white people made them believe thatt they were ghosts or immortals. You can use it in a few ways. It can be compared to the insult gringo but in most cases its not used in a bad way. It just depends on the context that it is used in. If your calling someone a stupid h***** then its bad. If your saying "me and my h***** friend went on a ride together" its diferent. I happen to be hallf white and half arabic but born and raised in hawaii so I would be a hapa h*****. That means I'm white on the outside but on the inside I'm a brown.

Re: Don't call me "h*****"

Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 8:02 pm
by Mystic
That aint so bad then if the hunas wanna call me a breathless immortal ghost :D

Re: Don't call me

Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 10:26 pm
by phatkix
wilit wrote:Can we still refer to Canadians as snowbacks? d*** snowbacks coming down here taking all our hockey jobs and eating all our maple syrup.
:*:

Re: Don't call me "h*****"

Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 11:35 pm
by Spreetard
SuprasNsprees wrote:love the title , if it's a reference to what i think it is
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ik09xFT6mk


Hahaha, that's my favorite band! And a great song! I also like " Kill all the white man" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWrlbRdJsSE


Though there are many other great NOFX tunes. Tons of them. Great big piles.