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Re: Towing your scooter

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 4:12 pm
by GSX1400
eliteguy50 wrote: The belt won't be an issue because the clutch won't be engaged.
This brings a question to me : there is no way to push start an Aero 50 then?
But going downhill I feel, when I cut throttle, that the engine is engaged which seems more obvious when I finish the downhill at a stop sign coming to this stop still with the throttle cut out. As if the was some drag that kept the cutch engaged when the rear wheel is turning fast enough.

Am I wrong?

That would mean that if the scoot hd no kick starter and the battery died out, there would be no way of starting the scoot?

Re: Towing your scooter

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 6:22 pm
by Wheelman-111
Greetings:

The engine does supply braking force - well as much as a small-displacement two-smoke can, anyway - when the engine is running at an RPM high enough to keep the clutch engaged. If the engine is stopped or slows to Idle speed the clutch Disengages. If you stopped at the top of a hill and pushed off with your legs to begin coasting down the hill, the engine would just keep idling and you could go as fast as the hill makes you go with the engine not revving up at all.

It's counter-intuitive, but there is NO way to push-start this type of transmission.

Re: Towing your scooter

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 9:02 pm
by eliteguy50
If you have another moped or similar device available, you can "push start" it by removing the belt cover, then using the rear wheel of the second device on the drive pulley of your aero. It helps to hold both bikes at an angle to establish decent enough contact.

Re: Towing your scooter

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 9:10 pm
by Wheelman-111
Greetings:

Not sure if that can be called "push-starting" of not. It's a bittch puttin' that belt back on a running engine, anyway.

Simpler way is to mount a 17 or 14mm socket to a drill and spin it that way.

Re: Towing your scooter

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 9:12 pm
by eliteguy50
That's why I quoted it. The second device is pushing on the outer sheaves half. You don't have to do anything with the belt.

Re: Towing your scooter

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 9:13 pm
by eliteguy50
Back to the original topic:
I have decided against this device for our Honda scooters due to the severe angle. After mocking up an open case, I fear that the primary gear bearing would run dry.

This would work for a bike that does not use a final reduction box at the wheel.

Re: Towing your scooter

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 3:17 am
by GSX1400
Thanks for the explanations on the push start.