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sa50 heated grips ?

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2015 12:33 pm
by wwolvert
im looking to install heated grip elements on my 1988 sa50 with a af16 for winter riding. I found some kimpex elements that look like they will barely fit under my grips they draw 3 amps. do you guys think my charging system can handle 3 amps of extra current?

Re: sa50 heated grips ?

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2015 4:31 pm
by benji
Yes, especially if you upgrade your batt and add a headlight off switch. My scoot used to have a small amplifier and 2 speakers, never seemed to have an issue.

Re: sa50 heated grips ?

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2015 4:38 pm
by wwolvert
Sweet looks like I'm going to give it a try, hopefully i can get the elements to fit under my grips. The description says they fit grips no shorter than 4 '' so its going to be close.

Re: sa50 heated grips ?

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2015 5:05 pm
by patthesoundguy
You can get heated grip elements from china for about 3$.
I wonder if they would work.

Re: sa50 heated grips ?

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2015 5:14 pm
by wwolvert
I can get name brand set for about $25 Im gonna try them they seem to be the smallest ones I could find.

Re: sa50 heated grips ?

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2015 5:29 pm
by patthesoundguy
25$ sounds reasonable to me :-) these are the ones I was talking about 12V Motorcycle Motorbike Handlebars Warm Hand Heat Heated Grip Kit Pads https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B00EQ1U856/ref ... twb7M3WT40 at least with kimpex to know what you are getting

Re: sa50 heated grips ?

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2015 5:35 pm
by wwolvert

Re: sa50 heated grips ?

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2015 9:56 pm
by 1man8scoots
Nice let us know if it works out. That's a good deal for warm hands!
And the charging system can handle an extra 3a draw. You could get a 01 stator for a bit more juice.

Re: sa50 heated grips ?

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2015 10:25 pm
by Trafficjamz
1man8scoots wrote:Nice let us know if it works out. That's a good deal for warm hands!
And the charging system can handle an extra 3a draw. You could get a 01 stator for a bit more juice.
The charging system can not handle that much extra current draw.

The battery will need to be externally charged to keep up with the heated grips.

Re: sa50 heated grips ?

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2015 10:44 pm
by 1man8scoots
Ah I was thinking .3 not 3 in my head. How much extra is acceptable?

Re: sa50 heated grips ?

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2015 11:34 pm
by Trafficjamz
1man8scoots wrote:Ah I was thinking .3 not 3 in my head. How much extra is acceptable?

If i had to guess, (and i do because i don't know the exact output of the voltage regulator) I would say the regulator puts out no more that 2 amps of dc current.

The headlight is ac current and runs off a different circuit. I tried to run the 25w headlight on the dc side of things....the charging system could not keep up. :sad:


3 amps at 12 volts is 36 watts of power.

Re: sa50 heated grips ?

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2015 7:59 pm
by patthesoundguy
Trafficjamz wrote:
1man8scoots wrote:Ah I was thinking .3 not 3 in my head. How much extra is acceptable?

If i had to guess, (and i do because i don't know the exact output of the voltage regulator) I would say the regulator puts out no more that 2 amps of dc current.

The headlight is ac current and runs off a different circuit. I tried to run the 25w headlight on the dc side of things....the charging system could not keep up. :sad:


3 amps at 12 volts is 36 watts of power.
Great point there jamz. Maybe the headlight circuit could do the job hard to say.

Re: sa50 heated grips ?

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2015 11:11 pm
by benji
I tried to do the math on the output and I figured it would be around .9 amp output. I upgraded my batt to a 12ah out of an electric scooter, disconnected my stock headlight(even tho it's a different circuit I figure it at least takes a small load off) and installed an hid bulb off the battery and a Rockford fosgate amp (tiny one, maybe 40 watts total output) on my scoot and it didn't die On me, even used the starter. I think a larger battery has a better recovery rate that helps it even out the load. I'm sure in the long run the battery might need an external charger, but so far I only need a charger when I can't get it started. Every now n then Id get crud in the carb and have to try over n over to get it home, cranking the starter til it's dead. But that wasn't the exta load killing it then haha. If your not running the grips all the time I think you'll be ok, but again only w an upgraded battery to back up the charging system. The stock batt is too small even for the stock bike imo.

Re: sa50 heated grips ?

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2015 11:15 pm
by benji
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Now this is the type of battery you need imo. This one's mine. I took out the fac battery box and this slid right in on my 86 aero 50. I put it on after the stock one died

Re: sa50 heated grips ?

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2015 11:17 pm
by benji
Sealed "gel-cel"type, you can get em in lots of sizes. I bet one that's the stock size would do well too.