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I have a bad starter motor. I was looking on ebay and wow, spree starters are expensive. Yet GY6 starters are like 15 bucks. What's the difference? Will a gy6 starter not fit on a spree?
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thxcuz wrote: spree starters are expensive.
Yet GY6 starters are like 15 bucks.
What's the difference?

..about eighty bucks... :naughty:
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The problem with alot of these starters is just corrosion and time has caught up with them. Just take your old one, tear it apart, clean out all the gunk with a wire brush, wipe it down, blow it out, regrease it, and try it again. Might just save yourself 100 bucks and have a fully functional starter.
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That's good news.
The bad news is when I tested it something started smoking.
And it wasn't me.
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Could be the wiring. The wire gets hot when the starter is not working right or working harder. I've got mine to start getting warm before haha.

But ya these starters are pretty simple. I took mine apart (86 aero 50) and drained the rusty water out of it, cleaned it up a little, and let it dry. After I put it back together it works awesome.
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I talked to one of the maintenance engineers at the tv station I work at. He told me if it's it gunked up it will draw more current and I likely fried the wires since I wasn't using the proper gauge.

His hobby is restoring old tv equipment and running a 70's era studio out of his home. Did I mention this guy lives in an old school? Did I also mention he's only 26?
I'm bringing it in tomorrow and have him look at it.

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We put power to it today and no dice unfortunately.
He said the brushes are too far gone.
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I have a spare (variated) AF05e motor from an Aero/Elite that has a starter on it. Does anyone know if they are compatible with the Af05e Spree motor?
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Oh, and did I mention the mount is busted....because the mount is busted.
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thxcuz wrote:I did find this post
http://www.hondaspree.net/phpBB3/viewto ... f=3&t=4575

That led me to here
https://www.jackssmallengines.com/jacks ... rt/6232705

So that's something
One thing is for sure, mousewheels knows his stuff. If he says it, I believe it to be golden. Ive personally never changed brushes in a starter motor but I have with great success in power tools like drills, saws and even a shop vac once. As far as the LT80 brushes go, this is the cheapest I found with minimal serching effort. http://www.ebay.com/itm/new-for-Suzuki- ... gw&vxp=mtr

If you buy these (or other LT80 brushes) and install them, please reply back with the results and possibly pics/instructions of the process. Thx.
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New brushes ordered. Now I need another bad starter in order to replace the mounting face
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I'd be interested to know if the LT80 brushes fit too. On this side of the pond, they are available as part of the LT80 kit, shame the rest of it is apparently the wrong parts. A few months ago I changed the brushes on may car's starter, the difference in cold weather was like night and day. Many people simply swap out the starter, but it's only an extra 30 mins to change the brushes.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Suzuki-LT80-S ... SwNSxVD-SY
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Greetings,
The LT-80 brush as well as most all parts in the LT-80 starter rebuild kit fit. Folks have been re-building their starters for years with these parts :)
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For the LT-80 rebuild kit, the following parts can be used:
  • Brushes
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    Brush holder
    Ball Bearing
    Bushing
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