NEED IDEAS FOR A CHEAP, FAST BIKE

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Re: NEED IDEAS FOR A CHEAP, FAST BIKE

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PimpinSpree wrote:Definitely will make your motor run poorly
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either buy or make a new one, don't think patching will work.. good find.
taz 50mm bbk, 51g. rollers,1500 c spring
24mm arreche, #20 pilot, E2 needle clip on lower groove
arreche air filter
Naruku intake, reeds & block
v8 pipe
stock gears
trail tech temp & rpm gauges
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Re: NEED IDEAS FOR A CHEAP, FAST BIKE

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dun rite wrote:
PimpinSpree wrote:Definitely will make your motor run poorly
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either buy or make a new one, don't think patching will work.. good find.
i just patched it and put a layer of gasket sealer over it. it definitely seals now. the only problem is i need to adjust my carb because it is adjusted to when i had the leak. does anyone know the stock settings?
'00 Honda Elite S.....................'06 Yamaha Zuma
-80cc Taiwanese BBK...............-Taiwan pwr pkg
-Malossi Vari
-6.9:1 Primary gears
-High Energy Ignition Coil
-Carbon Fiber Reeds
-Chrome CT Mani
-28mm OKO Carb
-Uni Pod Filter
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Re: NEED IDEAS FOR A CHEAP, FAST BIKE

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download the service manual here. http://www.hondaspree.net/other/SA50_88-02_service.pdf

1 7/8 turns is the starting point. read the adj. procedure in the manual on how to fine tune for your engine.
taz 50mm bbk, 51g. rollers,1500 c spring
24mm arreche, #20 pilot, E2 needle clip on lower groove
arreche air filter
Naruku intake, reeds & block
v8 pipe
stock gears
trail tech temp & rpm gauges
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ok so i downloaded the manual, and i did exactly what it said 1 7/8 out. i moved the screw from all the way lean to all the way rich and it still kept bogging out. i dont know what to do i tried every adjustment possible :cry:
'00 Honda Elite S.....................'06 Yamaha Zuma
-80cc Taiwanese BBK...............-Taiwan pwr pkg
-Malossi Vari
-6.9:1 Primary gears
-High Energy Ignition Coil
-Carbon Fiber Reeds
-Chrome CT Mani
-28mm OKO Carb
-Uni Pod Filter
-PG Long pipe
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Re: NEED IDEAS FOR A CHEAP, FAST BIKE

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did you put a new spark plug in? Although that may not be the culprit, since you were overly lean, not rich
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ill be getting one today actually. do you think it might be the fix to the problem?
'00 Honda Elite S.....................'06 Yamaha Zuma
-80cc Taiwanese BBK...............-Taiwan pwr pkg
-Malossi Vari
-6.9:1 Primary gears
-High Energy Ignition Coil
-Carbon Fiber Reeds
-Chrome CT Mani
-28mm OKO Carb
-Uni Pod Filter
-PG Long pipe
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a thorough carb cleaning might be in order. use the wikispreedia under technical. follow the carb cleaning guide and check out the picture tutorial. if theres a lot of scale & or varnish, get a carb cleaning bucket kit from auto parts store and soak the carb. overnight. spray cleaners don't always do it,
taz 50mm bbk, 51g. rollers,1500 c spring
24mm arreche, #20 pilot, E2 needle clip on lower groove
arreche air filter
Naruku intake, reeds & block
v8 pipe
stock gears
trail tech temp & rpm gauges
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dun rite wrote:a thorough carb cleaning might be in order. use the wikispreedia under technical. follow the carb cleaning guide and check out the picture tutorial. if theres a lot of scale & or varnish, get a carb cleaning bucket kit from auto parts store and soak the carb. overnight. spray cleaners don't always do it,
thats exactly what i was thinking to do. i clean the carb monthly just for the * of it cuz it makes me fell better about my performance, but i think youre right on the overnight soak
'00 Honda Elite S.....................'06 Yamaha Zuma
-80cc Taiwanese BBK...............-Taiwan pwr pkg
-Malossi Vari
-6.9:1 Primary gears
-High Energy Ignition Coil
-Carbon Fiber Reeds
-Chrome CT Mani
-28mm OKO Carb
-Uni Pod Filter
-PG Long pipe
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ok i just put the carburetor on. its been soaking since 12 noon. its 1030 pm right now. i tried tuning it, and theres still no difference, it just bogs. should i buy a set of different main jets to test and see what works best with my engine?
'00 Honda Elite S.....................'06 Yamaha Zuma
-80cc Taiwanese BBK...............-Taiwan pwr pkg
-Malossi Vari
-6.9:1 Primary gears
-High Energy Ignition Coil
-Carbon Fiber Reeds
-Chrome CT Mani
-28mm OKO Carb
-Uni Pod Filter
-PG Long pipe
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if you want a fast bike buy a polini corsa pg long 7.1 gears ct chrome 28 oko kelly pulley sef ramp wit polini guides s trans or zx trans 15 center spring n 3000 clutch spring wit 42 or 39 gram weights.
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iRiE S0ULJAH wrote:if you want a fast bike buy a polini corsa pg long 7.1 gears ct chrome 28 oko kelly pulley sef ramp wit polini guides s trans or zx trans 15 center spring n 3000 clutch spring wit 42 or 39 gram weights.
my dilemma is that im spending 40 bucks, and my scooter will get me from point a to point b. when i get the money i need to get the corsa kit and oko carb at the same time so that i can still ride it. after that im gonna save for a variator and clutch with a 1500-2000 rpm spring. its my daily driver cuz im 15 and cant drive a car but i need the bike to work
'00 Honda Elite S.....................'06 Yamaha Zuma
-80cc Taiwanese BBK...............-Taiwan pwr pkg
-Malossi Vari
-6.9:1 Primary gears
-High Energy Ignition Coil
-Carbon Fiber Reeds
-Chrome CT Mani
-28mm OKO Carb
-Uni Pod Filter
-PG Long pipe
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Re: NEED IDEAS FOR A CHEAP, FAST BIKE

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out of curiosity, have you done a compression test?
taz 50mm bbk, 51g. rollers,1500 c spring
24mm arreche, #20 pilot, E2 needle clip on lower groove
arreche air filter
Naruku intake, reeds & block
v8 pipe
stock gears
trail tech temp & rpm gauges
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Re: NEED IDEAS FOR A CHEAP, FAST BIKE

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dun rite wrote:out of curiosity, have you done a compression test?
im going to be doing that later i know it should be around 114-117 psi (7.0:1) correct?
'00 Honda Elite S.....................'06 Yamaha Zuma
-80cc Taiwanese BBK...............-Taiwan pwr pkg
-Malossi Vari
-6.9:1 Primary gears
-High Energy Ignition Coil
-Carbon Fiber Reeds
-Chrome CT Mani
-28mm OKO Carb
-Uni Pod Filter
-PG Long pipe
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taz 50mm bbk, 51g. rollers,1500 c spring
24mm arreche, #20 pilot, E2 needle clip on lower groove
arreche air filter
Naruku intake, reeds & block
v8 pipe
stock gears
trail tech temp & rpm gauges
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Re: NEED IDEAS FOR A CHEAP, FAST BIKE

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it turns out that i dont have a compression tester, but i can get one at harbor freight for like 15 bucks, nbd. im probably not going to even attept to start the engine for a couple days, until my jets and rollers that i ordered get here. im going to get my engine re-ported and polished at the local shop: macomb powersports, and i got the new plug, which is a BPR6HSA. the p means protruded tip, and the guy that sold it to me said it was better for the race applications im putting on. i will keep you guys posted on this fix/build as it comes along.. thanks for your guys input and help. :2thumbs:
'00 Honda Elite S.....................'06 Yamaha Zuma
-80cc Taiwanese BBK...............-Taiwan pwr pkg
-Malossi Vari
-6.9:1 Primary gears
-High Energy Ignition Coil
-Carbon Fiber Reeds
-Chrome CT Mani
-28mm OKO Carb
-Uni Pod Filter
-PG Long pipe
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