And so it starts
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- spree-rider
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And so it starts
Went today and picked up some paint.
plans are:
48mm BBK
paint rims and exaust
pipe
and possible gears.
uni filter as well
plans are:
48mm BBK
paint rims and exaust
pipe
and possible gears.
uni filter as well
86 spree
sb 50 intake and reeds
3.00x10 rear tire
waxed
99Polaris indy 700
harliquim paint
2" bar riser
lefty throttle
ice scratchers
SLP tri keel skis
ported
high compression head
chrome low windshield
mountain bar
Xtra-10
I ALWAYS KEEP ONE ROLLED
sb 50 intake and reeds
3.00x10 rear tire
waxed
99Polaris indy 700
harliquim paint
2" bar riser
lefty throttle
ice scratchers
SLP tri keel skis
ported
high compression head
chrome low windshield
mountain bar
Xtra-10
I ALWAYS KEEP ONE ROLLED
- martynkim
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Re: And so it starts
You only need the Engine Enamel for the exhaust. You can use regular paint for the wheels and the exhaust guard. I would take them back and save a few bucks.
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Re: And so it starts
Normally, Put this paint is like no other hi temp enamel is $2.50 were i got it with a coupon.
86 spree
sb 50 intake and reeds
3.00x10 rear tire
waxed
99Polaris indy 700
harliquim paint
2" bar riser
lefty throttle
ice scratchers
SLP tri keel skis
ported
high compression head
chrome low windshield
mountain bar
Xtra-10
I ALWAYS KEEP ONE ROLLED
sb 50 intake and reeds
3.00x10 rear tire
waxed
99Polaris indy 700
harliquim paint
2" bar riser
lefty throttle
ice scratchers
SLP tri keel skis
ported
high compression head
chrome low windshield
mountain bar
Xtra-10
I ALWAYS KEEP ONE ROLLED
- spree-rider
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Re: And so it starts
I cannot find red hi temp. The closest thing i found was some chevy orange. (see pic)
Any help?
Any help?
86 spree
sb 50 intake and reeds
3.00x10 rear tire
waxed
99Polaris indy 700
harliquim paint
2" bar riser
lefty throttle
ice scratchers
SLP tri keel skis
ported
high compression head
chrome low windshield
mountain bar
Xtra-10
I ALWAYS KEEP ONE ROLLED
sb 50 intake and reeds
3.00x10 rear tire
waxed
99Polaris indy 700
harliquim paint
2" bar riser
lefty throttle
ice scratchers
SLP tri keel skis
ported
high compression head
chrome low windshield
mountain bar
Xtra-10
I ALWAYS KEEP ONE ROLLED
- Wheelman-111
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Re: And so it starts
Greetings:
Hot 2-stroke exhaust will quickly cook "Engine" enamel. BBQ paint or specifically-designed Exhaust paints last a bit longer, but I've never used one that still looked good after a few thousand miles, particularly up around the exhaust flange. YMMV.
Hot 2-stroke exhaust will quickly cook "Engine" enamel. BBQ paint or specifically-designed Exhaust paints last a bit longer, but I've never used one that still looked good after a few thousand miles, particularly up around the exhaust flange. YMMV.
Wheelman-111
Most of my money is spent on scooterparts. The rest is just wasted.
"ISO": '03 Vespa ET4 Malossi187 74MPH
Flash 9: 2001 Elite SR Contesta 72 ZX Tran, 9:1 Gears, Stock Airbox/Carb/Pipe 58.8 MPH
Punkin: 2010 Vespa/Malossi S78, 61MPH
Most of my money is spent on scooterparts. The rest is just wasted.
"ISO": '03 Vespa ET4 Malossi187 74MPH
Flash 9: 2001 Elite SR Contesta 72 ZX Tran, 9:1 Gears, Stock Airbox/Carb/Pipe 58.8 MPH
Punkin: 2010 Vespa/Malossi S78, 61MPH
Re: And so it starts
That's why I like my Gyro, Everything is covered up.Wheelman-111 wrote:Greetings:
Hot 2-stroke exhaust will quickly cook "Engine" enamel. BBQ paint or specifically-designed Exhaust paints last a bit longer, but I've never used one that still looked good after a few thousand miles, particularly up around the exhaust flange. YMMV.
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Re: And so it starts
Hey weelman our 2 stroke pipes get over 500 degrees?
86 spree
sb 50 intake and reeds
3.00x10 rear tire
waxed
99Polaris indy 700
harliquim paint
2" bar riser
lefty throttle
ice scratchers
SLP tri keel skis
ported
high compression head
chrome low windshield
mountain bar
Xtra-10
I ALWAYS KEEP ONE ROLLED
sb 50 intake and reeds
3.00x10 rear tire
waxed
99Polaris indy 700
harliquim paint
2" bar riser
lefty throttle
ice scratchers
SLP tri keel skis
ported
high compression head
chrome low windshield
mountain bar
Xtra-10
I ALWAYS KEEP ONE ROLLED
- Wheelman-111
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Re: And so it starts
Greetings:
Axt Spree-Rider:
I had a 1977 Yamaha 750 Triple at one time, featuring a flat-black Kerker header. The black paint turned white almost immediately. Repainted with at least 3 different products with the same result. My current Sportster has a ceramic-coated Lightning header, handmade by a hardcore California gearhead who has access to some subcontractor for NASA. Aerospace, Space Shuttle tile stuff. AFAIK, that's the only way to keep it black for long. Not sure it's worth it for a plastic-covered scooter.
Axt Spree-Rider:
Based on the ability to light my Rocky Patel off the header pipe, I'd say WAY over 500 degrees. 800 is more like it, but ax anyone who has mounted an EGT for confirmation.Hey weelman our 2 stroke pipes get over 500 degrees?
I had a 1977 Yamaha 750 Triple at one time, featuring a flat-black Kerker header. The black paint turned white almost immediately. Repainted with at least 3 different products with the same result. My current Sportster has a ceramic-coated Lightning header, handmade by a hardcore California gearhead who has access to some subcontractor for NASA. Aerospace, Space Shuttle tile stuff. AFAIK, that's the only way to keep it black for long. Not sure it's worth it for a plastic-covered scooter.
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Wheelman-111
Most of my money is spent on scooterparts. The rest is just wasted.
"ISO": '03 Vespa ET4 Malossi187 74MPH
Flash 9: 2001 Elite SR Contesta 72 ZX Tran, 9:1 Gears, Stock Airbox/Carb/Pipe 58.8 MPH
Punkin: 2010 Vespa/Malossi S78, 61MPH
Most of my money is spent on scooterparts. The rest is just wasted.
"ISO": '03 Vespa ET4 Malossi187 74MPH
Flash 9: 2001 Elite SR Contesta 72 ZX Tran, 9:1 Gears, Stock Airbox/Carb/Pipe 58.8 MPH
Punkin: 2010 Vespa/Malossi S78, 61MPH
- spree-rider
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Re: And so it starts
Well when i was getting paint form napa for my dads new chevy motor for his truck i saw some black 1200+ degree paint for $5 a can.
86 spree
sb 50 intake and reeds
3.00x10 rear tire
waxed
99Polaris indy 700
harliquim paint
2" bar riser
lefty throttle
ice scratchers
SLP tri keel skis
ported
high compression head
chrome low windshield
mountain bar
Xtra-10
I ALWAYS KEEP ONE ROLLED
sb 50 intake and reeds
3.00x10 rear tire
waxed
99Polaris indy 700
harliquim paint
2" bar riser
lefty throttle
ice scratchers
SLP tri keel skis
ported
high compression head
chrome low windshield
mountain bar
Xtra-10
I ALWAYS KEEP ONE ROLLED
- z50r-ghost
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Re: And so it starts
-Just my 2 cents... but alot of times it is definitely how you apply the paint, as well as a good paint to begin with.
If you plan to paint your scooter's muffler, I recommend having it "hot-tanked" at a machine shop. Hot Tanking is where the part (like a carbon and oil-gunk filled old muffler) is dipped hot sulfuric acid. The sulfuric acid gets ALL the carbon out of inside of the muffler, and literally makes it like flow new... Usually only costs around $15 at a machine shop.
For painting your muffler yourself, here's what I have done-
1st step: Sandblasting the surface that will be painted
2nd step: Cleaning the sandblasted metal with denatured alcohol / brake cleaner etc
3rd step: Priming the metal with a "BBQ" type (1200 deg) paint primer
4th step: Reading the instructions and then painting the surface.... light coats, drying, "curing" the primed and painted part in the oven at the specified temp; usually low at first, then letting it completely cool, "curing" the paint in the oven again at a higher temp, and again at an even higher temp... I have heard the trick to using the "ultra" high temp paint is NOT to use too thick of a coat.
I have had great luck by doing this method on scooter exhausts, and the paint holds up great, even around the header flange.
The "BBQ" paints tend to fail when the paint is exposed to rain splashes when the muffler is really hot.
-I totally agree with Wheelman, though; ceramic coating is the way to go. It will never fade, crack, peel, etc with heat, and i keeps alot of the heatinside the pipe, resulting in better performance, so I have been told.
Anyways, hope this helps.
Later, jon
If you plan to paint your scooter's muffler, I recommend having it "hot-tanked" at a machine shop. Hot Tanking is where the part (like a carbon and oil-gunk filled old muffler) is dipped hot sulfuric acid. The sulfuric acid gets ALL the carbon out of inside of the muffler, and literally makes it like flow new... Usually only costs around $15 at a machine shop.
For painting your muffler yourself, here's what I have done-
1st step: Sandblasting the surface that will be painted
2nd step: Cleaning the sandblasted metal with denatured alcohol / brake cleaner etc
3rd step: Priming the metal with a "BBQ" type (1200 deg) paint primer
4th step: Reading the instructions and then painting the surface.... light coats, drying, "curing" the primed and painted part in the oven at the specified temp; usually low at first, then letting it completely cool, "curing" the paint in the oven again at a higher temp, and again at an even higher temp... I have heard the trick to using the "ultra" high temp paint is NOT to use too thick of a coat.
I have had great luck by doing this method on scooter exhausts, and the paint holds up great, even around the header flange.
The "BBQ" paints tend to fail when the paint is exposed to rain splashes when the muffler is really hot.
-I totally agree with Wheelman, though; ceramic coating is the way to go. It will never fade, crack, peel, etc with heat, and i keeps alot of the heatinside the pipe, resulting in better performance, so I have been told.
Anyways, hope this helps.
Later, jon
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Re: And so it starts
Oh...
and let me be the 1st to say you have a BEAUTIFUL Harley, Mr. Wheelman.
SUPER clean bike, my man.
Later, jon
and let me be the 1st to say you have a BEAUTIFUL Harley, Mr. Wheelman.
SUPER clean bike, my man.
Later, jon
.locked away in a cage my rage has got the best of me
time finds a way each day of leaving less of me behind.
>< Solitaire Unraveling ><
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U45NfWSX-Vk
...my life story
1990HONDANS50F
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time finds a way each day of leaving less of me behind.
>< Solitaire Unraveling ><
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U45NfWSX-Vk
...my life story
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- Wheelman-111
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Re: And so it starts
Greetings:
Thanks for the tips on exhaust painting, Jon. My "skills" in this regard are legendary. Where's a good place to buy the Ultra-Heat primer and topcoat?
Appreciate the compliments on my Sporster S. No trick to a super-clean HD if you start with a new one, other than frequent washing. They don't leak oil anymore. No, really! We're actually selling both Sportsters. Hers is a 2003 100th Anniversary Custom 883. Cleaner than mine, for sure.
Thanks for the tips on exhaust painting, Jon. My "skills" in this regard are legendary. Where's a good place to buy the Ultra-Heat primer and topcoat?
Appreciate the compliments on my Sporster S. No trick to a super-clean HD if you start with a new one, other than frequent washing. They don't leak oil anymore. No, really! We're actually selling both Sportsters. Hers is a 2003 100th Anniversary Custom 883. Cleaner than mine, for sure.
Wheelman-111
Most of my money is spent on scooterparts. The rest is just wasted.
"ISO": '03 Vespa ET4 Malossi187 74MPH
Flash 9: 2001 Elite SR Contesta 72 ZX Tran, 9:1 Gears, Stock Airbox/Carb/Pipe 58.8 MPH
Punkin: 2010 Vespa/Malossi S78, 61MPH
Most of my money is spent on scooterparts. The rest is just wasted.
"ISO": '03 Vespa ET4 Malossi187 74MPH
Flash 9: 2001 Elite SR Contesta 72 ZX Tran, 9:1 Gears, Stock Airbox/Carb/Pipe 58.8 MPH
Punkin: 2010 Vespa/Malossi S78, 61MPH