1987 Honda Elite S w/ pictures 99.01%

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two4one wrote:Just throwing in my $.02. Your scoot looks great! Excellent work!
It does look great and a source of inspiration for my own '87 SE50 but I have a question: you took the front storage rack off, which I think is an improvement, but in doing so you no longer have a place to mount your front turn signals. Are you going to remount the storage rack so you can anchor the turn signal lights to it or do you have another idea about how they'll be mounted so they will be clearly visible to oncoming traffic? In my own case, my front storage rack was badly cracked (happened after I bought the scoot) and I've had to epoxy weld it back together to have an anchor for the turn lights. It looks kind of crappy so if you have a plan that would eliminate it altogether, I'd very much like to hear about it. Thanks!

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@Skipper20- I want to put the front rack on for the convenience a glove box, but had in mind a few different locations ?? for the turn signals.
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Kolten wrote:@Skipper20- I want to put the front rack on for the convenience a glove box, but had in mind a few different locations ?? for the turn signals.
Please keep us up to date as to where you finally locate them. Personally, I think Honda did a very poor job of putting them where they are on the '87. If that scooter tips over for any reason the light on the side that tips is going to be damaged or knocked off entirely which happened in my case. I notice that starting with the '88 models Honda put the turn signals up on the handlebars where they should have been in the first place.

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you can use small flush mount turn signals for motorcycles and mount them on the side of the front panel just in front of where the original lenses were.
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Even then they are the first to break. They have it figured out on the ruckus. Flexible turn indicators.
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Skipper20 wrote:
Kolten wrote:@Skipper20- I want to put the front rack on for the convenience a glove box, but had in mind a few different locations ?? for the turn signals.
Please keep us up to date as to where you finally locate them. Personally, I think Honda did a very poor job of putting them where they are on the '87. If that scooter tips over for any reason the light on the side that tips is going to be damaged or knocked off entirely which happened in my case. I notice that starting with the '88 models Honda put the turn signals up on the handlebars where they should have been in the first place.

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Ok so this is where I have decided to put the turn signals.
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bakaracer wrote:you can use small flush mount turn signals for motorcycles and mount them on the side of the front panel just in front of where the original lenses were.
I didn't want to put anymore holes into the panels, but that's what I had in mind
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Got all the major stuff out of the way.

Now got to get that under cowl, and re upholster the seat, & probably go for a more glass like finish painting.
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2008 JCL Gy6 155cc 78Mph Stock bore, +2.2mm Stroke Crank shaft.
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eliteguy50 wrote:Even then they are the first to break. They have it figured out on the ruckus. Flexible turn indicators.
I's gots me's a ruckus too
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The headlights look gey like that you should figure something out. Make me a offer on my storage rack so i can ship that with the pipe too
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kingkamehameha wrote:The headlights look gey like that you should figure something out. Make me a offer on my storage rack so i can ship that with the pipe too
Those are turn signals not headlights, and no matter where you put them they should be noticeable so people can see what you intend to do. In my case the location I had chose is where you adjust the headlight, this ment that I had to adjust the light and then put the signals in, no need to add wholes to the panels. This model only came out for one year, so you should becareful with the cutting and chopping.
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My Wife's 2005 SYM DD50 660ft 12.79 47mm bore
2008 JCL Gy6 155cc 78Mph Stock bore, +2.2mm Stroke Crank shaft.
2008 Kymco Top Boy Swap Gy6 170cc
2004 Honda Metropolitan Get Engine 60+Mph
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Kolten wrote:
eliteguy50 wrote:Even then they are the first to break. They have it figured out on the ruckus. Flexible turn indicators.
I's gots me's a ruckus too
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more importantly, 60+ on the 03 GET? details!
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jcrabb13 wrote:
Kolten wrote:
eliteguy50 wrote:Even then they are the first to break. They have it figured out on the ruckus. Flexible turn indicators.
I's gots me's a ruckus too
MOD THAT BISH!!!

more importantly, 60+ on the 03 GET? details!
Whoops I need to change that, it's actually an 04 get.
That was about three years ago, and had taken 6 months to get tweaked out, more importantly the exhaust wasnt finished yet and the panels had to be cut down to save weight and reduce drag. I can tell you what I had done but I can't tell you how to tune.
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2006 Honda NPS50S Ruckus
My Wife's 2005 SYM DD50 660ft 12.79 47mm bore
2008 JCL Gy6 155cc 78Mph Stock bore, +2.2mm Stroke Crank shaft.
2008 Kymco Top Boy Swap Gy6 170cc
2004 Honda Metropolitan Get Engine 60+Mph
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Engine info: I had taken the AF05e and placed it into the sym(speedo cable actually works), I am very satisfied with how the cmr big bore kit is performing because the sym is about fifty lbs. heavier plus the added weight of my GF and I, we have achieved 45mph. It feels like the bore has broken in some. Need to get a variator, cdi, tweak the clutch a little, and fab a typhoon exhaust pipe to the se50 exhaust port angle.
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2006 Honda NPS50S Ruckus
My Wife's 2005 SYM DD50 660ft 12.79 47mm bore
2008 JCL Gy6 155cc 78Mph Stock bore, +2.2mm Stroke Crank shaft.
2008 Kymco Top Boy Swap Gy6 170cc
2004 Honda Metropolitan Get Engine 60+Mph
1995 Honda CBR600F3
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Kolten wrote:I can't tell you how to tune.
understandable, it varies by person, location, and even the motor itself.

i was just impressed!
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