NQ50 build , nothing to lose , heaps to gain

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This is all I have to show today

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the bottom piece of this is also giving me some grief, there was a safety sticker on it, I removed it and sanded it down to bare plastic plus some and its still bleeding though the new paint, I can read it clear as day, I plan to sand it down to bare plastic again, and on the next resin pore to brush a layer over the panel and the paint it again, hope that will work
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One more for the road, put the gauge in just now, I think this made todays efforts it all worth while

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A little concept Im looking at

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It will be gun metal grey on black parts of fairing
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A little more.....

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Bogged up the grill as it no longer has the horn, then Wax On, Wax off, Wax On, Wax Off, with mould release. (Mister Miyagi would be proud, RIP)

And now I have a mould, My plan at the moment is to make a carbon fibre copy

Here is that pesky Bottom piece of headset

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A thin layer of resin and some sanding with a fresh cote of paint, and now you cant see that warning label :) .

and a new toy

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Yes for now it is sort of pointless, but in future maybe needed
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custom scoots are very cool! :coolcruise:
especially more so when you can do most of the work yourself. =)
that's a lot of good hard work man. :worship:
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Thanks Dio89, doin it myself is the fun part, even if the results are not show and shine material..

Well, dragging the chain a little, things keep pop'n up out of no where and consuming time.

a little piece done as per below, I am planning to crack into it next weekend.........

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So its not done yet, but im going to sand it down thoroughly and thow down a clear cote, and where the joins are I might add a silver band, same colour as the headset

That me for now, maybe mid week I can show more
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A little unorthodox..... like my paint job...... its epoxy resin with black pigment........

Thought I would give it a go, the resin has a bit of flex, bonds rather well, and the fact that you feet will be rubbing up and down there all day long, I think it should hold up a bit better than my other option of rattle can painting.....

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I wanted this to be gun metal Grey but where I got the Pigment from they didnt have much range of colour,
I will paint the edge gun metal and follow it round the rear and front fairings, If I were smart enough I could show you what I envision with some PC paint program, but alas I no not such knowledge.....

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It did look really Primo when I first did it, but then I naft it a little when I did the second cote, but I believe I can fix it.
Im kinda doing this too fast now as I have too much on the go, speed kills...
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it's taking shape. shouldn't be to much left to do. will be one of a kind when your done.
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you have been bitten by the bug,must be time for a big bore kit and gears make it go like it looks

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DA M its been a bit sents ive look at your post boy its looking grate its nice to see someone thinking out of the box..
and no one can say the thay need photo . grate work keep it up ..
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Thanks for the comments guys, :thumbwink:

More pointless bits for the build, dont know why I got them, but it puts big old cheesey grin on me :D

so carbon race theme is destroyed, but maybe a little bit of pimp in the mix :coolcruise:

Oh no, I think this will make her too much of a ricer for my liking, I might abort this idea.......

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these were/are?... going to go on a custom glove box
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what air filter is that. i am new to buildind a scooter but i just bought an 1989 honda elite e that i am going to fix up but it didnt come with one so i need to find something that will work and look good. thank.

ps it looks great and i love the sound system on it.
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charleswymer wrote:what air filter is that. i am new to buildind a scooter but i just bought an 1989 honda elite e that i am going to fix up but it didnt come with one so i need to find something that will work and look good. thank.

ps it looks great and i love the sound system on it.



Thanks, still iffy on the sound system, will do it anyway and decide after if it stays.....

The air filter is just a cheap run of the mill pod that you could probably get off ebay, its washable (some are not, dont get them), and I would recommend adding some filter oil on them before use as it will probably be dry (just my preference), If you do run one you'll need to replace the carb jets as it will lean the fuel air mix and pop the engine.

I might do a custom air filter as there is no way it could be ridden in the rain or left in the rain.
But thats the last thing I want to attack at the moment.....
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I like voiding warranty's, not that Ebay really has them :roll:

I should warn you that I am not an electronics specialist.


Got onto ebay and purchased the cheapest analogue rev counter I could find.

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Then started to pull it apart, I very gingerly pulled off the face and removed 2 bolts off the back.
I used a small screw driver and spent about 15 mins slowly working around at the metal lens clamp from the back, so I would not damage it too much and I could re-use it.

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And now here is the circuit board

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The switch you see on there has 3 positions too choose between 4 cylinder, 6 & 8 four stroke engines.
Now the biggest problem is that a 2 stroke single cylinder fires once per revolution, a four stroke 4 cylinder fires twice per revolution, a 6 cylinder 4 stroke fires 3 times per revolution, and an 8 cylinder fire 4 times per revolution.
So on the 4 cylinder setting the rev gauge would only be reading half of what the engine its actually doing. the 6th and 8th would be worse

Below the switch you will see that there is 3 resistors, 1 each for each setting.
Now, my plan was to measure the OHM of each resistor, my theory is I could replace the resistor on the 4 cylinder setting (or the 6 or 8 would work) for either a higher OHM or lesser OHM, measure the others Ohms on 6 and 8 to decide if it needs to be higher or lower, then get a potentiometer/trim pot (adjustable resistor) that would be as close as possible as to what you need (the electronics store people should be able to push you in the right direction), if you choose the wrong one it will be extremely hard to tune.

now placing in the potentiometer is easy-ish, they have 3 legs to solder, but a resistor has 2, to fix this you joint the middle leg to any 1 of the outer outer legs, so it has 2.
Then you remove the resistor that you are using and replace it with the potentiometer.

BUT LUCKY ME, if you look in the picture, below the switch and below the resistors you will see there is a potentiometer already there, looks like the master potentiometer so to speak.
So what I did was wire the rev counter to my car (four cylinder four stroke), had the guage set on the 4 cylinder setting and adjusted the potentiometer so that the gauge read twice the rpm of the car guage, it was an educate guess that it would adjust the needle read out, but it did.

PLEASE CORRECT ME IF THE ABOVE IS WRONG, I would hate to send people on the wrong track.
I would like to say I know very little about electronics

Anyway the gauge in action

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There is three main wires to make it function (just like most after market gauges) 1 wire goes to the 12v+ one 12v- and the last one goes on the black terminal on the coil.

And there is two other wires, that is just for the light.

Next thing for me to do, re-assemble with silicone to make it weather tight, and make a custom mount.
I may make a new face for it and re calibrate it to make more of a 12,000 RPM reader.
Could someone tell me what sort of revs to see out of these Dio engines? worked and standard...

all fun and games, thanks for watching
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way to go with the tach dude!!! That is super sweet! My question for you is where exactly did you connect that to. I had a tach that I tried to use with my spree and I couldn't get it to work as I didn't have the diagram for which wire was which on my old tach. And could you post the link to where you got that tach on ebay? Ill order one of those if its cheap enough just to have it for fun.
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