1985 Honda spree clutch question

This is the place to discuss your build with other builders and solicit feedback and help with parts of your build: engine, body work, bolt ons, etc.

Moderator: Moderator

Post Reply
Volvo850R
BMX
BMX
Posts: 22
Joined: Wed Mar 07, 2018 4:42 pm
Location: New hampshire

1985 Honda spree clutch question

Post by Volvo850R » Mon May 14, 2018 6:38 pm

Hey i just replace the clutch in my spree now at idle the back tire spins. Is there a clutch adjustment or do i dial down the carb?? Thanks all

User avatar
eclark5483
CB900F
CB900F
Posts: 1236
Joined: Thu Apr 14, 2016 5:15 am
Location: Spencer Iowa
Contact:

Re: 1985 Honda spree clutch question

Post by eclark5483 » Mon May 14, 2018 11:37 pm

Springs might be shot. You should be idling at 1800 +/- 100 rpm without the tire spinning.
Indian Motorcycle tech @ Polaris Industries, B.A. Information Technology, A.A. Engineering
3 Sprees
1 ATM50-A1
1 Indian AMI-50
World's Greatest Spree: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lU49lL_Xx4s
Want to make a Spree engine go fast? CLICK HERE: LINK

Volvo850R
BMX
BMX
Posts: 22
Joined: Wed Mar 07, 2018 4:42 pm
Location: New hampshire

Re: 1985 Honda spree clutch question

Post by Volvo850R » Tue May 15, 2018 6:03 am

I just had it religned and they didnt mention springs. They seem fine to me

User avatar
eclark5483
CB900F
CB900F
Posts: 1236
Joined: Thu Apr 14, 2016 5:15 am
Location: Spencer Iowa
Contact:

Re: 1985 Honda spree clutch question

Post by eclark5483 » Tue May 15, 2018 6:58 am

Maybe they are, don't want to steer you otherwise. Just saying, it is good practice to put new springs in while you have it all torn apart anyway. Best way to tune, is get a tach. If the wheel never spun before, and you know that you made no changes to what the carb was already set at, then this should tell you that for some reason, the new pads wanna bite down. Check with a tach to see if idle speed is higher then spec. If your idle is within spec and you are turning, then the problem is more then likely springs. On mine, I can bring the rpm up to about 2200 before the springs kick in and the wheel starts to spin. Researching possible ways to bring that more up to around the 3000 rpm mark. The higher up in the rpm's you can get the springs to catch, the faster and smoother the launch.
Indian Motorcycle tech @ Polaris Industries, B.A. Information Technology, A.A. Engineering
3 Sprees
1 ATM50-A1
1 Indian AMI-50
World's Greatest Spree: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lU49lL_Xx4s
Want to make a Spree engine go fast? CLICK HERE: LINK

Volvo850R
BMX
BMX
Posts: 22
Joined: Wed Mar 07, 2018 4:42 pm
Location: New hampshire

Re: 1985 Honda spree clutch question

Post by Volvo850R » Tue May 15, 2018 12:37 pm

I did petcock and line never touched the carb.Is it easy to change the springs my self? I have no idea how to take apart

User avatar
motormike
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 4609
Joined: Wed Dec 29, 2010 10:58 pm
Location: Nashville, TN.

Re: 1985 Honda spree clutch question

Post by motormike » Tue May 15, 2018 12:45 pm

Volvo850R wrote:Is it easy to change the springs my self? I have no idea how to take apart
I think you answered your own question.
If you have "no idea", it is not going to be easy.
The process is a bit tricky.
I am not able to give you a step-by-step instruction.
Yielding to the more experienced.
Always wear safety glasses. :thumbwink:
RideRed
OH-ARRR Racing
#53 Gyro

<Honda---Honda----Honda---Honda---Honda>
<Gyro S><XL 100><Helix><XL75><CMX450>
..Trooper....Boss......Buzby...Jon-Boy....Dolly
"Live Large - Ride Small"

cancunia
Spree
Spree
Posts: 108
Joined: Mon Apr 10, 2017 2:45 am
Location: Lincolnshire, England

Re: 1985 Honda spree clutch question

Post by cancunia » Tue May 15, 2018 1:03 pm

When you say 'the wheel spins' do you mean when the wheel is off the ground on the stand? If so, does the engine slow down if you put the back brake on? I'm thinking that maybe the shoes can wear in a little?

Volvo850R
BMX
BMX
Posts: 22
Joined: Wed Mar 07, 2018 4:42 pm
Location: New hampshire

Re: 1985 Honda spree clutch question

Post by Volvo850R » Tue May 15, 2018 6:16 pm

It spins when On the stand. If I come to a stop and just hold the back break IÔÇÖm good. I just got it all back together just going to send it

User avatar
Wheelman-111
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 10937
Joined: Wed Oct 22, 2008 5:09 pm
Location: Deepinnaharta, Texas

Re: 1985 Honda spree clutch question

Post by Wheelman-111 » Tue May 15, 2018 8:05 pm

Greetings:

The driven pulley spins freely on bearings, relying on the clutch to secure the connection when RPMs reach engagement speed. There is a certain amount of bearing drag that will slowly spin the output shaft, even with the clutch disengaged. As long as you can stop it without slowing the engine down, you should be fine. If not, the Idle RPM is too high, there's an issue with the clutch, or the idler bearings are getting "catchy".
Wheelman-111
Most of my money is spent on scooterparts. The rest is just wasted.
Still Seeking Red PCX-150
Flash 9: 2001 Elite SR Contesta 72 ZX Tran, 9:1 Gears, Stock Airbox, Carb and Pipe 58.8 MPH
Punkin: 2010 Vespa/Malossi S78, 99KPH

:coolcruise:

User avatar
eclark5483
CB900F
CB900F
Posts: 1236
Joined: Thu Apr 14, 2016 5:15 am
Location: Spencer Iowa
Contact:

Re: 1985 Honda spree clutch question

Post by eclark5483 » Wed May 16, 2018 12:02 am

Yep, that might be very well it as well. If you can put your foot on it lightly while it is spinning and it stops, then I wouldn't worry about it so much. I like to set my idle at 1800 (warm, and choke not engaged), and go with that. If it's on the ground, and not trying to move forward at idle with the brake disengaged, then you are golden. If it starts to move forward a bit, then something is worn or needs a dab of grease. Don't worry too much about spinning on the stand.. ideally, it won't, all the better if it does, but no biggy for the most part as long as it plays nice on the ground.
Indian Motorcycle tech @ Polaris Industries, B.A. Information Technology, A.A. Engineering
3 Sprees
1 ATM50-A1
1 Indian AMI-50
World's Greatest Spree: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lU49lL_Xx4s
Want to make a Spree engine go fast? CLICK HERE: LINK

User avatar
Meatball
CB900F
CB900F
Posts: 1680
Joined: Sat Jun 04, 2016 10:45 am
Location: seattle

Re: 1985 Honda spree clutch question

Post by Meatball » Wed May 16, 2018 12:57 am

If it bothers you, set the parking brake...just dont forget its on if you wanna revv while its on the stand. Like Wheeldude says, its just the needle bearing drag within the Driven Face assembly. Perfectly normal.
I need to find some new haters...the ones I have are starting to like me.

User avatar
eclark5483
CB900F
CB900F
Posts: 1236
Joined: Thu Apr 14, 2016 5:15 am
Location: Spencer Iowa
Contact:

Re: 1985 Honda spree clutch question

Post by eclark5483 » Wed May 16, 2018 3:06 am

Volvo850R wrote:Hey i just replace the clutch in my spree
So, to back up a bit here and clarify. Is the replacement clutch one that has been re padded? Is it off of a different Spree? Define replace, thanks. Might help get to the bottom of the issue since you are unskilled in spring replacement. So I'm guessing someone else did the new clutch for you.
Indian Motorcycle tech @ Polaris Industries, B.A. Information Technology, A.A. Engineering
3 Sprees
1 ATM50-A1
1 Indian AMI-50
World's Greatest Spree: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lU49lL_Xx4s
Want to make a Spree engine go fast? CLICK HERE: LINK

Volvo850R
BMX
BMX
Posts: 22
Joined: Wed Mar 07, 2018 4:42 pm
Location: New hampshire

Re: 1985 Honda spree clutch question

Post by Volvo850R » Wed May 16, 2018 6:18 am

Yes sent to jw clutch werks. Repadded. I have impact gun and vise. Im sure i can get it apart and replace the springs. It does seem like when it on the stand and you apply reae brake the motor rev does come down little bit

User avatar
noiseguy
Site Admin
Site Admin
Posts: 4293
Joined: Sat Jul 31, 2004 8:00 pm
Location: South Florida
Contact:

Re: 1985 Honda spree clutch question

Post by noiseguy » Wed May 16, 2018 3:55 pm

Did you try just turning down the idle a touch, at the carb?
Admin, Hondaspree.net

Buy new air filters and gasket kits here (Ebay): http://stores.ebay.com/noiseguysstore
Buy new air filters and gasket kits here (Amazon): www.amazon.com/shops/spreepower

Post Reply