SE50 build
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Re: winter build
Greetings:
More oil isn't always better, even for break-in. The ratio you proposed is about 1:16. That's likely to leave a massive puddle in the crankcase, foul the plug as well as the Tri-County Area air for months. Worst of all, the air-fuel level will be very lean. The engine may run so hot that the over-abundant oil still won't stop it from seizing. Run the pump and one ounce per gallon; should be enough.
More oil isn't always better, even for break-in. The ratio you proposed is about 1:16. That's likely to leave a massive puddle in the crankcase, foul the plug as well as the Tri-County Area air for months. Worst of all, the air-fuel level will be very lean. The engine may run so hot that the over-abundant oil still won't stop it from seizing. Run the pump and one ounce per gallon; should be enough.
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Re: winter build
Wheelman-111 with the small bbk of a se50 cood i just run the oil pump after brake in????
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se50 crank...
SpreJunk 87elite in a spree body
ruckus variator , 3.5 tire , 1500 drive face spring , a 64 bbk ,
8 gram rollers, stock carb , after market air filter and 105 jet
looking for
se50 crank...
SpreJunk 87elite in a spree body
ruckus variator , 3.5 tire , 1500 drive face spring , a 64 bbk ,
8 gram rollers, stock carb , after market air filter and 105 jet
Re: winter build
If youre using that malossi I gave you just do a premix of 32:1. 4 oz 2 stroke oil in the can then 1 gallon of gas from the 93 octane pump. You can get baby bottles that have the OZ marked on the side for measurements and for taking along for the ride. I always bring an extra 2 OZ of 2 stroke oil with me just in case I need to put a half gallon in I can do that and just drop the whole 2 OZ bottle in with it. Sometimes theres not enough room for a whole gallon so thats why I only bring 2 OZ for a half gallon of gas. You can always bring multiple baby bottles. I wouldnt suggest running lower grade fuel than premium on the malossi bore.
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Re: winter build
LoveMyHonda yes im using your bore and head ....
the spree only tank only holds 0.6 gallons of gas that two oz of oil for a fill up if its about out of gas ... i believe that if i put 93 octane gas in it at the pump the the hose on the pump hold about a 1/2 gallon so i wood not be getting 93 octane gas that way ... once i get the motor up and running im going to do a compression test to see what compression i have the books says stock is 114 to 171 ... i think if its over 171 ill use high octane gas or do you even its under 171 i shood use it ????
swimmingfree
the spree only tank only holds 0.6 gallons of gas that two oz of oil for a fill up if its about out of gas ... i believe that if i put 93 octane gas in it at the pump the the hose on the pump hold about a 1/2 gallon so i wood not be getting 93 octane gas that way ... once i get the motor up and running im going to do a compression test to see what compression i have the books says stock is 114 to 171 ... i think if its over 171 ill use high octane gas or do you even its under 171 i shood use it ????
swimmingfree
handicap (dyslexia)
looking for
se50 crank...
SpreJunk 87elite in a spree body
ruckus variator , 3.5 tire , 1500 drive face spring , a 64 bbk ,
8 gram rollers, stock carb , after market air filter and 105 jet
looking for
se50 crank...
SpreJunk 87elite in a spree body
ruckus variator , 3.5 tire , 1500 drive face spring , a 64 bbk ,
8 gram rollers, stock carb , after market air filter and 105 jet
Re: winter build
I dont remember what the compression was but Im pretty positive it was under 171, Im thinking it was near 160. I hear ya on the pump, but honestly I would not run that kit with lower grade fuel if possible. That kit was fun when I got to ride it, Ive only used Polini cylinders prior to receiving that engine. It really woke up that af05e.
I didnt know the spree only held that little fuel, wow that means you get 2-3 runs down the strip with a big stroker if youre using the stock spree fuel cell.
I didnt know the spree only held that little fuel, wow that means you get 2-3 runs down the strip with a big stroker if youre using the stock spree fuel cell.
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Re: winter build
yes its a small tank on the spree ... but its a cute little scooter ...lol ... lol ...i no higher octane gas wood not hurt this little motor and may help some .. its getting cold up here in Michigan we have night down in the 30 so far and some lite frost as well the high for today might get to 70.... so the scooter time is about up for the year ....
swimmingfree
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handicap (dyslexia)
looking for
se50 crank...
SpreJunk 87elite in a spree body
ruckus variator , 3.5 tire , 1500 drive face spring , a 64 bbk ,
8 gram rollers, stock carb , after market air filter and 105 jet
looking for
se50 crank...
SpreJunk 87elite in a spree body
ruckus variator , 3.5 tire , 1500 drive face spring , a 64 bbk ,
8 gram rollers, stock carb , after market air filter and 105 jet
Re: winter build
I never run those reed springs.. first thing I throw away.swimmingfree wrote:hay LoveMyHonda you said Emory board on one of your post do you mean finger file????
what do you guy think about this ????
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Re: winter build
paulpauly7
thank for the info but cant even find them!!!! lol
ottoman
please give info on getting tacking the spring off ....
1 what bbk did you do it for ???
2 what was your max rpm .... after and before?????
3 did you feel more tork???
patthesoundguy
thank for the link
thank all for your input guys
swimmingfree
thank for the info but cant even find them!!!! lol
ottoman
please give info on getting tacking the spring off ....
1 what bbk did you do it for ???
2 what was your max rpm .... after and before?????
3 did you feel more tork???
patthesoundguy
thank for the link
thank all for your input guys
swimmingfree
handicap (dyslexia)
looking for
se50 crank...
SpreJunk 87elite in a spree body
ruckus variator , 3.5 tire , 1500 drive face spring , a 64 bbk ,
8 gram rollers, stock carb , after market air filter and 105 jet
looking for
se50 crank...
SpreJunk 87elite in a spree body
ruckus variator , 3.5 tire , 1500 drive face spring , a 64 bbk ,
8 gram rollers, stock carb , after market air filter and 105 jet
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Re: winter build
You are rocking that build bro can't wait till you get to drive it B-)
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84 Spree stock
84 Spree Dio AF18E MHR Cylinder Arrow Pipe 28mm OKO
80 Express, 47mm DR BBKit, Weak Ends Intake, Boyesen Dual stage reeds, 19mm Delorto carb, MLM pipe
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84 Spree stock
84 Spree Dio AF18E MHR Cylinder Arrow Pipe 28mm OKO
80 Express, 47mm DR BBKit, Weak Ends Intake, Boyesen Dual stage reeds, 19mm Delorto carb, MLM pipe
79 Express
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Re: winter build
dont no if i will get it up and running this year or not .. the best part is this build is im using used parts but not use up ... jug, piston, ring, head, carb, manifold and a couple jets are all use ... and i thank all that sold them to me ..
swimmingfree
swimmingfree
handicap (dyslexia)
looking for
se50 crank...
SpreJunk 87elite in a spree body
ruckus variator , 3.5 tire , 1500 drive face spring , a 64 bbk ,
8 gram rollers, stock carb , after market air filter and 105 jet
looking for
se50 crank...
SpreJunk 87elite in a spree body
ruckus variator , 3.5 tire , 1500 drive face spring , a 64 bbk ,
8 gram rollers, stock carb , after market air filter and 105 jet
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Re: winter build
That's awesome, keep up the good workswimmingfree wrote:dont no if i will get it up and running this year or not .. the best part is this build is im using used parts but not use up ... jug, piston, ring, head, carb, manifold and a couple jets are all use ... and i thank all that sold them to me ..
swimmingfree
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84 Spree stock
84 Spree Dio AF18E MHR Cylinder Arrow Pipe 28mm OKO
80 Express, 47mm DR BBKit, Weak Ends Intake, Boyesen Dual stage reeds, 19mm Delorto carb, MLM pipe
79 Express
85 Aero 80 stock
84 elite 125 stock
84 Spree stock
84 Spree Dio AF18E MHR Cylinder Arrow Pipe 28mm OKO
80 Express, 47mm DR BBKit, Weak Ends Intake, Boyesen Dual stage reeds, 19mm Delorto carb, MLM pipe
79 Express
85 Aero 80 stock
84 elite 125 stock
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Re: winter build
i no i have not done bunch with my build we have our first snow up her in Michigan and a lot of rain and cold as well .... i dont have heat in the shed today high is going to be about 50 so i may get out there and do some work on it... but need some input the fly wheel has 4 bolts holding the fan on and the fan dose as well... is this the wright fly wheel and fan for the se50 will it work ??? the motor did not come with the 2 fan cover....
swimmingfree
hay graphite9 you shood ask what color they wood like??
by the way we got a new store here harbor freight tools boy its nice to have
swimmingfree
hay graphite9 you shood ask what color they wood like??
by the way we got a new store here harbor freight tools boy its nice to have
handicap (dyslexia)
looking for
se50 crank...
SpreJunk 87elite in a spree body
ruckus variator , 3.5 tire , 1500 drive face spring , a 64 bbk ,
8 gram rollers, stock carb , after market air filter and 105 jet
looking for
se50 crank...
SpreJunk 87elite in a spree body
ruckus variator , 3.5 tire , 1500 drive face spring , a 64 bbk ,
8 gram rollers, stock carb , after market air filter and 105 jet
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Re: winter build
the leaves got done for now but more to come... got to spend some time putting the motor together got the crank in seals stater in before it got dark out... the crank move smooth and ezey not sure if im going to use the fly wheel and fan that came with the motor thay dont look wright for the motor the fan is wider and is held on by 4 bouts ??? dose a dio motor have 4 bouts holding the fan to the fly wheel??? 4 thing ill have to tack off the other motor is the fly wheel fan and all the cooling cover is some one has this laying around let me no...
swimmingfree
malossi head is the one on top and is bigger the the stock head ... will it fit under the cooling cover ?????
swimmingfree
malossi head is the one on top and is bigger the the stock head ... will it fit under the cooling cover ?????
handicap (dyslexia)
looking for
se50 crank...
SpreJunk 87elite in a spree body
ruckus variator , 3.5 tire , 1500 drive face spring , a 64 bbk ,
8 gram rollers, stock carb , after market air filter and 105 jet
looking for
se50 crank...
SpreJunk 87elite in a spree body
ruckus variator , 3.5 tire , 1500 drive face spring , a 64 bbk ,
8 gram rollers, stock carb , after market air filter and 105 jet
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Re: winter build
the dio fan and flywheel have 4 bolts.
Send me a pic of the flywheel you have, and ill tell you if its the right one.
Send me a pic of the flywheel you have, and ill tell you if its the right one.
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Re: winter build
Trafficjamz i hope this help you out will this fit in side my se50 cooling sis-tom ???
thank you for the input
swimmingfree
ps
i no its full of rust will clean it if it will work
thank you for the input
swimmingfree
ps
i no its full of rust will clean it if it will work
handicap (dyslexia)
looking for
se50 crank...
SpreJunk 87elite in a spree body
ruckus variator , 3.5 tire , 1500 drive face spring , a 64 bbk ,
8 gram rollers, stock carb , after market air filter and 105 jet
looking for
se50 crank...
SpreJunk 87elite in a spree body
ruckus variator , 3.5 tire , 1500 drive face spring , a 64 bbk ,
8 gram rollers, stock carb , after market air filter and 105 jet