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The PTSG official AF18e spree dio build thread

Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 7:23 pm
by patthesoundguy
Hey everyone I have finally decided to actually document my spree dio build as all of the parts arrived yesterday from graphite 9 and I got a good way through getting the motor ready last night in the shop. So here are some pis of the motor build progress. A special extra thanks to Graphite 9 for all of the guidance and parts so far on the build I couldn't have gotten this far with with out his help. I started out last nightby getting the intake windows in the block cleaned up all perfecto. My new mini pencil style air die grinder is one of the best things I ever could have gotten besides the compressor itself. Its so easy to do great port workwith it. Image as you can see I got the Malossi MHR bbk installed after that. Next I got the spree is motor mount installed and then scuffed the drive covers and gave them a coat of Honda Arctic silver its prettymuch an exact match to the original spree side cover and stock wheels gave them a coat of clear this morning as well. Now the motor is stock spree looking. Image the rear wheel got the same treatment last week. Image the shock extender actually solved a problem that I'm glad I found now. The rubber bushing in the block that the shock normally bolts to was worn so the rear tire that came on the motor was scalloped and toast. I got the driven pulley all serviced with a new malossi spring installed. Now I'm just waiting for the new crank seals to arrive and I need to go get bolts to attach the fan to the flywheel and the fan shroud to the motor. I figure with the motor on the bench and the variator off and the flywheel off as well now is the time to replace the crankseals and be done with it. No use in trying to run a motor of unknown milage and abuse with originalcrank seals. I would hate to burn up that mhr forthe sake of ten bucks. II'llbe sure to have some questions once I get deeper in to the build.

Re: The PTSG official AF18e spree dio build thread

Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 9:44 pm
by LMH
Sweet put that flywheel to use. The cover looks good that silver.

Re: The PTSG official AF18e spree dio build thread

Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 11:01 pm
by patthesoundguy
LoveMyHonda wrote:Sweet put that flywheel to use. The cover looks good that silver.
Yes my man that flywheel fits like a glove. Its gonna make that motor sing thanks to you. I'm going for the stock look with this build so I had to have the silver covers and silver rear wheel to match the front wheel. I even repainted the front wheel so it was nice and fresh to match the clean rear wheel. The arrow pipe won't look stock but its such a work of art it doesnt matter ;-) may paint the pipe chamber black not sure. I'll know when I get it all put together I'll pull the pipe and paint it

Re: The PTSG official AF18e spree dio build thread

Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 11:11 pm
by patthesoundguy
Made this plate last nightfor the ooil pump plug. I'm going to profile it to match the block. I couldn't do it last night I doddnt want to make a racket at 2am with the angle grinder ;-) Image I have to remember to cap that brass line. I keep forgetting to pick up a pack of vacuum line caps for that. That line must have been forbtje fuel pump I'm guessing?

Re: The PTSG official AF18e spree dio build thread

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 12:12 am
by deuce217
nice paint! Did you say it was honda brand paint? If so how much per can?

Re: The PTSG official AF18e spree dio build thread

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 12:42 am
by patthesoundguy
deuce217 wrote:nice paint! Did you say it was honda brand paint? If so how much per can?
Its duplicolor honda arctic silver NH97M Took me over and hour in thestore with my spree front hub in my hand to match the paint color two years ago. Well worth the time its about a perfect a match as you can get.

Re: The PTSG official AF18e spree dio build thread

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 4:06 am
by ped
Hi PTSG.
Looks good.
GL with the build.

Re: The PTSG official AF18e spree dio build thread

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 4:18 am
by ped
patthesoundguy wrote:Hey everyone I have finally decided to actually document my spree dio build as all of the parts arrived yesterday from graphite 9 and I got a good way through getting the motor ready last night in the shop. So here are some pis of the motor build progress. A special extra thanks to Graphite 9 for all of the guidance and parts so far on the build I couldn't have gotten this far with with out his help. I started out last nightby getting the intake windows in the block cleaned up all perfecto. My new mini pencil style air die grinder is one of the best things I ever could have gotten besides the compressor itself. Its so easy to do great port workwith it. Image as you can see I got the Malossi MHR bbk installed after that. Next I got the spree is motor mount installed and then scuffed the drive covers and gave them a coat of Honda Arctic silver its prettymuch an exact match to the original spree side cover and stock wheels gave them a coat of clear this morning as well. Now the motor is stock spree looking. Image the rear wheel got the same treatment last week. Image the shock extender actually solved a problem that I'm glad I found now. The rubber bushing in the block that the shock normally bolts to was worn so the rear tire that came on the motor was scalloped and toast. I got the driven pulley all serviced with a new malossi spring installed. Now I'm just waiting for the new crank seals to arrive and I need to go get bolts to attach the fan to the flywheel and the fan shroud to the motor. I figure with the motor on the bench and the variator off and the flywheel off as well now is the time to replace the crankseals and be done with it. No use in trying to run a motor of unknown milage and abuse with originalcrank seals. I would hate to burn up that mhr forthe sake of ten bucks. II'llbe sure to have some questions once I get deeper in to the build.
Hi PTSG. before you install the wheel, the yellow dot on the side of new tire go's by the valve stem. if you plan on going very fast I would move it. help keep your wheel balance. :thumbwink:
Nice paint work.

Re: The PTSG official AF18e spree dio build thread

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 9:00 am
by patthesoundguy
Hey thanks for the super duper awesome tip ped! I will break that tire down asap and spin it round. I love learning little timbits of info like that. :bowrofl:

Re: The PTSG official AF18e spree dio build thread

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 4:43 pm
by patthesoundguy
I was in the Honda dealer today to order more stuff for the other scoots and my crank seals will be in tomorrow for the af18, I think by early next week I'll have it together and on the road :geekdance:

Re: The PTSG official AF18e spree dio build thread

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 5:49 pm
by patthesoundguy
So this motor came with a 28mm oko ct intake and cable already on it. I think I'm just going to order a 26mm to round the whole thing out nicley. But untill I order that carb do you guys think I'd get decent performance on my 21mm carb to start off. I still have stock setup for trans. Or should I just put the 28 on and run it. I love hearing input.

Re: The PTSG official AF18e spree dio build thread

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 8:31 pm
by Wheelman-111
Greetings:

I really believe the 26 is better-suited to 72cc than the 28, but since you've already got a 28 use it. The 26 is easier to tune, for sure, but not THAT much better.

Re: The PTSG official AF18e spree dio build thread

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 10:11 pm
by patthesoundguy
graphite9 wrote:26 will give you better throttle response, but you might get a higher top speed with the 28. Either will work just fine!
You know if I hate the 28mm I'll getting a 26mm from ya there graphite 9 ;-)

Re: The PTSG official AF18e spree dio build thread

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 12:27 am
by sanjuro
I think anything larger than a 24 is going to give you limited cruising range. As-much-as I love the extra air/fuel, I think the trade off is too great. Of course, if it's just meant to rip around the neighborhood, then by all means, use the larger carb.

Re: The PTSG official AF18e spree dio build thread

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 12:39 am
by patthesoundguy
sanjuro wrote:I think anything larger than a 24 is going to give you limited cruising range. As-much-as I love the extra air/fuel, I think the trade off is too great. Of course, if it's just meant to rip around the neighborhood, then by all means, use the larger carb.
That was my thought for trying the 21mm. But I would love to have the full rip- ability of the the larger carb. I may play a bit once I get going. I may also get a second stand alone vacuum petcock and run the oil tank as a reserve tank. The oil low light would tell me when it was low. ;-)