Honda SA50P Starting to derestrict

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Honda SA50P Starting to derestrict

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Today I ordered a 78 jet for my Elite. I plan on drilling the exhaust, taking plate off variator, and ziptieing the oil pump open. Is there anything else that is recommended to derestrict this? I'm still new to working on scooters.
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Post by MentalJunkyard »

I'm in the same position as you. Sounds like you have the basics covered. I've been told the next steps after that are variator/rollers and gears. Mine came without the plate on the variator, and no washer in the exhaust. I haven't rejetted yet, but I raised the needle. I'll proceed with upgrades after a sort out some inconsistencies in its behavior.
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Yeah I'm not looking to spend too much for the upgrades, but I still want to go faster. :smile:
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->1995 Honda Elite 50 (Derestricted)
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->Multiple 94-01 Elite 50s
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Variator and gears are a good cheap upgrade to start. First thing I did on mine and made big difference
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^^second that. I picked up a clutch, belt, and multivar and it made the most difference. I would do tranny stuff first. I would also get a jet kit instead of a single jet. Naraku makes a kit for the stock carbs that has alot of choices if your not planning on changing the carb out.

There's a thread on "zx trans how-to". If you plan on doing a gear change too, then read this thread and see how to get the most from your ratio.
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Rip_City_Spree wrote:Variator and gears are a good cheap upgrade to start. First thing I did on mine and made big difference
What is a good variator for the price?
Currently own:
->1995 Honda Elite 50 (Derestricted)
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->Multiple 94-01 Elite 50s
->1985 and 1986 Honda Sprees
->1985 Honda Aero 50
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graphite9 wrote:I am a big fan of polini, as they come with two sets of rollers, and perform flawless, keli brand is popular. . Keli is taiwan made, polini is italian design. Keli is what I'd suggest if your trying to keep costs down.
Thanks for the reply. Where can I find a Keli variator? Also should I still open up the oil pump with ziptie and how would it look like?
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->1995 Honda Elite 50 (Derestricted)
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->Multiple 94-01 Elite 50s
->1985 and 1986 Honda Sprees
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Scooterswapshop.com for the vari, and everything for that matter.
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Bump. Same position . How much are we talking for all the parts to make the scoot faster??

How should i zip tie the oil pump open all the time??

So gears variator and main jet and carb washer drilled thats it??

Whats the top speed looking at after doing all this !!???
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Keli is about 50 bucks
A mallossi belt 38 bucks
Zip tie the oil pump .25 cents or 4 bucks if you have to buy a pack
Upjet 10 bucks at most
Dewasher the exhaust free
Press on a new set of gears 50-80 bucks if yyou can press it or not also matters.
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MrJumps wrote:Keli is about 50 bucks
A mallossi belt 38 bucks
Zip tie the oil pump .25 cents or 4 bucks if you have to buy a pack
Upjet 10 bucks at most
Dewasher the exhaust free
Press on a new set of gears 50-80 bucks if yyou can press it or not also matters.

When you say "If i can press it on or not matters"

Are you meaning if its possible to do it at all or meaning if I myself can do it?
I can have my mechanic do that for a price :)
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Like if you can press a gear on your own say you have a press or are willing to your your call and a wall as a press or you can bring it to a shop.
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Where can you get gears for an 87' Elite SE50P ??? Link please
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viewtopic.php?f=2&t=19538

The last item he listed on the main post I belive is the gears you need af50e but I am not sure ive never owned that bike so I donot know what motor it has.
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I saw those Malossi gears. However, the 16/32 primary gears would bring my ratio from its current 10.2 to around 7.82. (someone please check my math) Would this be ok with a stock bore? Are there other ratios available? Id hate to completely destroy my take-offs with too steep of a ratio.
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