86 spree won't run

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Re: 86 spree won't run

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Ha ha ha. Now I'm back at square one. Won't start. Flooded. Leaking gas out the carb mouth. Obviously got something in the needle/seat. Saw something on here the other day about polishing the seat with a q tip and toothpaste, I believe. I already replaced the needle, and it never leaked before, of course. So I guess it's rip off the carb, intake, reed plate, blow out. Go thru the carb for the millionth time. I'm also gonna try replacing the original fuel lines. I'll give you a report in a few days when I hve lower blood pressure.

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If float valve is new then polish the seat, it should be fine, and check to see that the float floats and the tab that engages the float valve is still fine and the float isn't jamming. On the pin.

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Did all that. I can't stop the thing from flooding the crankcase. I pulled the reed plate yesterday and today and blew it out best I could. Yesterday when it ran like a abanshee it also smoked like something I've never seen. Today blowing it out did no good. It almost took off a couple of times and then, presto, flooded plug. Yesterday a brand new plug seemed to do the trick. Thing is my friend came over and stuck all three of my fouled plugs in his PA50 and they ran fine. I put them in mine, and nothing. Boiled them in salt water (old Minnesota snowmobile trick) and it did not help. Guess I'll buy another. Toying with sending this thing off to TrafficJamz, a member here who is the local spree guru. Thanks for your patience and advice as I continue to beat my head against the wall.
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Wow you live near TrafficJams, I'm sure he could help you figure it out in no time flat :-D

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Hello again Pat. One quick question: in poking around the internet, I found another cause of recurring flooding problems is a plugged muffler. Could this be an issue? As I said earlier, when this thing started it smoked to beat * for a long time.
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It sure canbe. insects make mud home in the end of the pipe or they get blocked with oil residue. Pole the end of the pipe with a long piece of wire like a welding rod or similar before baking or chemical cleaning

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I've already poked, but no major clog. I'll try a cookout or another exhaust I have laying around.
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Btw, I see you're from Nova Scotia. Beautiful country. I helped deliver a tug from Staten Island to Sturgeon Bay Wisconsin, and it was the most gorgeous area I've ever seen, the Maritimes. The Straits of Canso were most impressive.
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have you ever pull off the exhaust and look at the exhaust port????
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No swimmingfree, but I intend to this wkd. Feeling hopeful.
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i wood build a fire and throw the pipe in it just for the fun of it :happy: it will not hurt the pipe as long as you dont hit it with water to cool it down...swimmingfree
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Spree exhaust pipe=its what's for dinner this weekend. If it quits snowing!
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i like mine with lemon :happy:
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You guys crack me up :-D

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Well, gentleman, I feel a wee foolish. Pulled exhaust got a mirror and flashlight and lo and behold I have a nicely grooved up piston. This explains the short run followed by a shorter run, etc. Shoulda looked at this first I guess. See this on weed whips and leaf blowers all the time, just thought spree motors were kinda indestructible. A bit unhappy with the fellow who sold it to me "running fine last year".

I wanna stay stock, and I see a kit for $85 on ebay. Anyone else have any suggestions for where to purchase a top end kit? TrafficJamz mods all his stuff, so he wasn't sure about purchasing a stock kit. He also said the lower end doesn't usually ever go bad on these. The bike's got 6400 miles on it.

Guess we're eating pizza tonight instead of grilled muffler!
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79 Honda Express
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