Honda Spree and Elite 50 Forums

I was perusing my manual trying to figure out why my Spree won't idle and runs like crap. The jet is right, #68 but I realized after removing the throttle cable that there is no needle in it!

I figure that the unseated main jet is overtaking the idle circuit and is making the whole spectrum too rich. Hence, why I have to keep blipping the throttle to keep it alive and why it accelerates soooo slowly and only tops out at 15mph. Take a look at these pictures. I have included the carb number because on page 4-8 of the Honda manual, it specifies two different needles for 85 and 86. My model Spree is an 85 but if someone removed the needle for whatever reason, maybe they changed the carb too. The number on the carb if you can't read it too well is 2 9C (D with a box around it) Y A (7 curved at the end with a line through the middle). Can anyone decipher this code to tell me what year carburetor it is so I can get the right needle set and am I crazy that there is no needle there?

Thats interesting that there is no needle....but if anything it would make ur scoot rev up rreeaally high i think.......it might also flood it. But thats just my guess.

not really, keep in mind that its not getting the air too. all fuel. this can definately solve your problem.

Per manual page 1-3: PA29C is the correct carb for '85. You may get the "wrong" needle anyway (wrong number of clips,) I'm betting either will work.

Rather than theorize about what a missing one would do, just replace it. Should only run at WOT, but have a hard time getting there.

Oh, I'm going to the Honda stealership tomorrow. I'm sure it would get to WOT eventually, however, I don't have that long of a street in front of my house. This problem would've been the farthest thing from my mind. I have cleaned that idle circuit so well so many times...