Should I get my cylinder honed?

prattj1 · Post by **prattj1** » Mon May 08, 2006 1:35 am

I am changing my rings, and the cylinder isnt scored, should I get the cylinder honed?

bitteraspects · Post by **bitteraspects** » Mon May 08, 2006 1:39 am

if the cylender is fine then there is no need to hone it out.

MySpree · Post by **MySpree** » Mon May 08, 2006 8:01 am

and then you would need bigger rings.

Post by **noiseguy** » Mon May 08, 2006 9:26 am

He said hone, not bore. Honing shouldn't change the diameter. You always hone with new rings.

bitteraspects · Post by **bitteraspects** » Mon May 08, 2006 1:31 pm

noiseguy wrote:He said hone, not bore. Honing shouldn't change the diameter. You always hone with new rings.

WRONG.

honing will change the diameter of the cylender, if only by a fraction, and depending on how much you hone, you may infact have to change pistons. this is a common occurance in heavily siezed cylenders.
if the walls of the cylender are fine, and there are no flaws in it, then there is no need to hone it out when changing rings

mopedman · Post by **mopedman** » Mon May 08, 2006 1:42 pm

don't do it if the walls are fine

DENMANSHAFFER · Post by **DENMANSHAFFER** » Mon May 08, 2006 10:47 pm

ACTUALLY DOESNT DO MUCH MORE THAN REMOVING DEPOSITS AND PUTTING A FRESH SURFACE ON THE CYLINDER WALL, IF DONE WITH FINE STONES. HONING IS A GOOD IDEA WHEN INSTALLING NEW RINGS.
BE SURE TO WASH CYLINDER THOROUGHLY WITH SOLVENT AND RUN SLOWLY FOR A WHILE TO LET THE NEW RINGS SEAT IN TO THE NEW SURFACE.

uspmale · Post by **uspmale** » Mon May 08, 2006 11:44 pm

I always lightly hone jugs when installing new rings. Also derust entire jug.
It takes the glaze off and gives the new rings a place to seat-in.
No failers to date, greg

bitteraspects · Post by **bitteraspects** » Mon May 08, 2006 11:45 pm

DENMANSHAFFER wrote:ACTUALLY DOESNT DO MUCH MORE THAN REMOVING DEPOSITS AND PUTTING A FRESH SURFACE ON THE CYLINDER WALL, IF DONE WITH FINE STONES. HONING IS A GOOD IDEA WHEN INSTALLING NEW RINGS.
BE SURE TO WASH CYLINDER THOROUGHLY WITH SOLVENT AND RUN SLOWLY FOR A WHILE TO LET THE NEW RINGS SEAT IN TO THE NEW SURFACE.

you could do that with a green scrubber and solution. anytime you remove a layer from insde the cylender, even if it is only a tiny amount, you are changing the diameter.

mopedman · Post by **mopedman** » Tue May 09, 2006 9:18 am

yea it is still changing the diamitor

burnt_toast · Post by **burnt_toast** » Tue May 09, 2006 11:13 am

if you're thinking about doing a hone, but are vary of increasing the diameter, you should just wetsand the inside.

cross swatch the inside with 400grit wetsand paper (dip it in warm water before and while applying), this will revive the inside and help the new rings seat better. apply it evenly through out the cylinder.

I had this done after slightly glazing my 90cc after blowing a piston and it worked pretty good.

Post by **noiseguy** » Tue May 09, 2006 4:22 pm

From my limited knowledge of rings and pistons, my understanding is that the honed surface is needed to hold oil to the bore during operation.

bitteraspects · Post by **bitteraspects** » Tue May 09, 2006 11:21 pm

no, your rings and cylender walls will form together, just as they do with a new bore.

mopedman · Post by **mopedman** » Wed May 10, 2006 8:20 am

it will be fine, just put it back together, and brake the new rings in proprly

Honda Spree and Elite 50 Forums