Help with 84 spree starting

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RideRed
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Help with 84 spree starting

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I just recently had to buy a new cylinder (thanks greg), rings, gaskets etc. Well I put the new rings on and somehow snapped the lower new ring. So as a last resort I ended up throwing my old lower ring back on. The old cylinder and rings were really clean, but the exhaust had broken off at the cylinder so I had to buy new.

Anyways the scooter ran awesome before (4700 miles) and due to the exhaust i had to change the cylinder and thought i would do rings as well. Well the problem is, now it will crank and crank, with no signs of even wanting to start. I have sprayed starting fluid in the cylinder and it doesnt even act like its there. Im getting spark, gas, and seems like plenty of compression (cant test until tomorrow)

I pull the plug and it is soaked with gas and oil. Believe it or not the scooter did not have an air screw before, but i bought one as well and have it set at 1.5 turns.

Anything else i can try before pulling the cylinder back off to see if a ring or something is stuck? This thing ran 3 weeks ago before i swapped cylinders and an air screw and a plug, what else could have changed?!

Sorry for the long post and thanks alot for the help. Im dyin to get this thing going
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Post by jbarb »

Are you getting spark? When my old motor had 50 lbs of compression I couldnt get it to fire with the starting fluid in cylinder either.
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I am getting spark, at least outside of the cylinder. It may be too wet inside
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Post by -aL- »

still sounds like the carb needs more adjustment
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Post by RideRed »

I did a compression test and was sitting just under 60 lbs, so I pulled the cylinder back off, and my top ring (the new one) is stuck solid. Hopefully i can get it out and up and goin today
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Post by noiseguy »

My guess is that it was low compression. Make sure to install the intake tract and filter box, sometimes this missing will keep it from running.
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Post by RideRed »

Thanks for all the help, i cleaned the groove up real well and put a new ring in, started right up. Im excited to get this beast on the road! Its been 3 years since my last one :lol:
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