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help. my 86 spree motor starts and runs backwards.

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 1:56 am
by ped
hi all, my 86 Honda spree motor starts and runs backwards. anyone, any idea what is going on. I have no clue. it will not start the right way. had to take the kick start cover off and use a drill and socket to get it to run. but it will only start up going backwards. any help please. thanks

Re: help. my 86 spree motor starts and runs backwards.

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 4:48 am
by spreeinkc
If you are 100% sure it is running backwards (fan spinning wrong way, rear wheel is spinning backwards) then I would think the timing is off. I would pull the flywheel and check to see if the woodruff key is there. More that likely you will need a flywheel puller to remove it. Sometimes they can be a b**** to get them to break free from the crank. Don't hit it with anything or pry on it in an attempt to knock it loose as you can damage the crank or break the case.

Re: help. my 86 spree motor starts and runs backwards.

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 5:55 am
by paulpauly7
the spree motor runs the opposite way to the variated AF05E ,AF16 motors due to there only beinrg two gears in the rear trans .And notice the kick start goes the opposite way to the others.

Re: help. my 86 spree motor starts and runs backwards.

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 6:50 am
by eliteguy50
If it is running the wrong way, you are either starting it in the wrong direction via the drill or it backfires to the wrong direction. A fun random experience when you jump on and hit the gas.

Re: help. my 86 spree motor starts and runs backwards.

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 8:02 am
by Wheelman-111
Greetings:

Starting with a drill, it must spin clockwise when viewed from the belt pulley. The transmission turns that rotation correctly at the rear wheel.

Re: help. my 86 spree motor starts and runs backwards.

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 11:01 am
by noiseguy
Spree (and most 2 stroke bikes) can be made to run "backwards."

Since you're using a drill, expect the problem is that you need to reverse your drill direction.

Re: help. my 86 spree motor starts and runs backwards.

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 11:55 am
by LMH
Now that would be a fun video, if youre good at riding backwards that is, if not then its just gonna be funny.

Re: help. my 86 spree motor starts and runs backwards.

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 3:54 pm
by ped
spreeinkc wrote:If you are 100% sure it is running backwards (fan spinning wrong way, rear wheel is spinning backwards) then I would think the timing is off. I would pull the flywheel and check to see if the woodruff key is there. More that likely you will need a flywheel puller to remove it. Sometimes they can be a b**** to get them to break free from the crank. Don't hit it with anything or pry on it in an attempt to knock it loose as you can damage the crank or break the case.

yes is backwards. so it may be woodruff key is off. thank you. I will get the puller and check it. thanks.

Re: help. my 86 spree motor starts and runs backwards.

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 3:59 pm
by ped
eliteguy50 wrote:If it is running the wrong way, you are either starting it in the wrong direction via the drill or it backfires to the wrong direction. A fun random experience when you jump on and hit the gas.

it will start and I hit the gas it will run and drive backwards. I get about ten feet before I fall over. lol.

Re: help. my 86 spree motor starts and runs backwards.

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 4:07 pm
by ped
Wheelman-111 wrote:Greetings:

Starting with a drill, it must spin clockwise when viewed from the belt pulley. The transmission turns that rotation correctly at the rear wheel.
starting with the drill at the pully I turn clockwise it back fires, no start. at the pully turning it counterclockwise, the spree starts and runs fine. but the wheel spins in revers.

Re: help. my 86 spree motor starts and runs backwards.

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 4:12 pm
by ped
LoveMyHonda wrote:Now that would be a fun video, if youre good at riding backwards that is, if not then its just gonna be funny.
maybe I should do a video on it. I can only drive the spree a few feet . lol

Re: help. my 86 spree motor starts and runs backwards.

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 4:39 pm
by deuce217
You could turn really sharp, like a forklift. Wear a helmet.

Re: help. my 86 spree motor starts and runs backwards.

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 10:19 pm
by ped
deuce217 wrote:You could turn really sharp, like a forklift. Wear a helmet.

maybe I can learn to ride it like that. backwards lol.

Re: help. my 86 spree motor starts and runs backwards.

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 12:10 am
by otto-man
WOW, riding a Spree backwards!!!! I'm gonna check back often to find out how to set up one to go backwards :smile:

Re: help. my 86 spree motor starts and runs backwards.

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 5:17 pm
by yamahauler660r
the magnets in the flywheel polarity may have gotten reversed. My father in law had to weld a part of a flywheel on a arctic cat sled and it went in reverse when he got it back together. it even started with the pull start and sounded completely normal

try a different flywheel