Ch/Cn250 Jetting

Trying to get your Spree/Elite to run, or run better? Post your questions here.

Moderator: Moderator

Post Reply
User avatar
Life is a Enigma
Noob
Noob
Posts: 12
Joined: Wed Sep 24, 2014 8:33 pm
Location: Northern California

Ch/Cn250 Jetting

Post by Life is a Enigma »

I have a Honda Helix CN250 I picked up for a good deal 600.00 it needed a new top end.Now I have the top end all done I bored it 1mm over to 73mm making it a 251cc I know I need to up the jet size but no shop will help because California smog laws :crazy: The stock carb is a 30mm Keihin the jets are 38 slow jet and 110 main jet. The help Im looking for is what size jet to start off with I know the 110 is to lean. I also changed the stock muffler to the muffler of a YY250T jonway here a pic I had to cut and weld the down pipe to make it fit.Any help will be appreciated.
Here a short video of it running. http://youtu.be/4PfdbW5HtDo
Image
Image
Johnniespeed
Elite
Elite
Posts: 316
Joined: Sat Nov 17, 2012 8:18 pm
Location: Sunny Surburbon Sparta Michigan

Re: Ch/Cn250 Jetting

Post by Johnniespeed »

Here is a good starting point from Randy P. http://www.ch250.net/techtips/4.htm
1984 Aero 125 57 mph for sale.

Elite 150 64 mph for sale.

Elite 250 77 mph. for sale.

Red Honda Grom, modded to 250cc, 87 mph.

GSXR 1000 168 mph. My new favorite, scooters seems way too slow now.
User avatar
Life is a Enigma
Noob
Noob
Posts: 12
Joined: Wed Sep 24, 2014 8:33 pm
Location: Northern California

Re: Ch/Cn250 Jetting

Post by Life is a Enigma »

Johnniespeed wrote:Here is a good starting point from Randy P. http://www.ch250.net/techtips/4.htm
I have read over the whole site he talks about whats good performance upgrades for the stock motor but nothing about motor that has been bored over :*: There's got to be someone out there that has done this in the past. You spree guys know when you bore your motor this changes things like jetting and reeds etc need to be upgraded. Im just trying to find a good base line to start at for I don't have to buy half a dozen jets to get it right. :rock:
User avatar
LMH
Board Supporter
Board Supporter
Posts: 2096
Joined: Wed Apr 11, 2012 8:00 pm
Location: usa

Re: Ch/Cn250 Jetting

Post by LMH »

.
Last edited by LMH on Sun Dec 28, 2014 12:24 pm, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
LMH
Board Supporter
Board Supporter
Posts: 2096
Joined: Wed Apr 11, 2012 8:00 pm
Location: usa

Re: Ch/Cn250 Jetting

Post by LMH »

.
Last edited by LMH on Sun Dec 28, 2014 12:25 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Johnniespeed
Elite
Elite
Posts: 316
Joined: Sat Nov 17, 2012 8:18 pm
Location: Sunny Surburbon Sparta Michigan

Re: Ch/Cn250 Jetting

Post by Johnniespeed »

On my ch250, I'm running 0.50 mm overbore and using stock main jet, runs perfect, plug looks good, I did go fatter on the pilot jet so the mixture screw didn't have to be out so many turns.
I agree with LMH, four stroke tuning is different from two stroke tuning.
Let us know what you end up using, once you get yours dialed in.
My guess is that the non-stock exhaust would have a greater effect on jetting than the overbore, and even then I think the effect is small, since this is four stroke.
1984 Aero 125 57 mph for sale.

Elite 150 64 mph for sale.

Elite 250 77 mph. for sale.

Red Honda Grom, modded to 250cc, 87 mph.

GSXR 1000 168 mph. My new favorite, scooters seems way too slow now.
User avatar
Life is a Enigma
Noob
Noob
Posts: 12
Joined: Wed Sep 24, 2014 8:33 pm
Location: Northern California

Re: Ch/Cn250 Jetting

Post by Life is a Enigma »

I know its a little late Thanks for your guys help. This is what I have done since I've been gone I rebuilt the carburetor I changed the slow jet to 42 and the main jet to 120 I also drilling out the vacuum port hole on the bottom of the throttle slide to 1/8".The last owner broke off the top part of the stock pilot jet screw and that was fun to get out of the carburetor. I'm also still waiting for the pilot jet tool and mini tack for I can start tuning the pilot jet screw Honda put that dam screw in a stupid spot need a special tool to get to it because my hands are to big :*:

Image
California Epa Carburetor :(
Image
Old pilot screw and new pilot screw
Image
float height at 18.5mm / 0.73in
Image
New float and new Keihin slow 42slow jet & 120 main. I got my Keihin jets from jets R us http://www.jetsrus.com/a_jet_kit_scoote ... _helix.htm

Image
Post Reply