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New Spree Owner Help!
Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2017 3:35 am
by Andrus
Please help me figure out my problem with my 1985 Honda Spree
Previous Owner had engine rebuild. Deleted Oil pump and just uses pre mix gas
Carb was missing air carb screw when I purchased. I have since replaced carb screw
I have replaced spark plug
I have replaced bystarter
I have replaced ignition coil
I have added fresh pre mixed fuel
The spree runs so randomly. The idle is going all over the place. It revs up clean especially when its tilted on its side.
It will die when in upright position if i let it idle. It bogs under load. What the * is going on ?!
Re: New Spree Owner Help!
Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2017 7:13 am
by jakubman1
Did you clean the carb?
Re: New Spree Owner Help!
Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2017 9:38 am
by eclark5483
What ratio of fuel/oil are you using? Don't wanna over-saturate a Spree, it will run shoddy.
Re: New Spree Owner Help!
Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2017 10:35 am
by Jonadz
Air filter, is it in good shape, is it even there? Air box lid, is it there and on securely? Additionally is the boot from the air box to the carb on securely and tight?
Re: New Spree Owner Help!
Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2017 1:43 pm
by Andrus
jakubman1 wrote:Did you clean the carb?
Yes I did
Re: New Spree Owner Help!
Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2017 1:44 pm
by Andrus
Jonadz wrote:Air filter, is it in good shape, is it even there? Air box lid, is it there and on securely? Additionally is the boot from the air box to the carb on securely and tight?
Yes air box is there with air filter in good shape. Its secure and the boot from the box to the carb is on tight
Re: New Spree Owner Help!
Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2017 1:45 pm
by Andrus
eclark5483 wrote:What ratio of fuel/oil are you using? Don't wanna over-saturate a Spree, it will run shoddy.
I believe its 40:1
Re: New Spree Owner Help!
Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2017 1:49 pm
by eclark5483
I'm wondering now if you might have an air leak on the intake where the carb connects. Have you tried soapy water sprayed on it to check for leaks/bubbles/idle changes?
Re: New Spree Owner Help!
Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2017 2:09 pm
by Andrus
eclark5483 wrote:I'm wondering now if you might have an air leak on the intake where the carb connects. Have you tried soapy water sprayed on it to check for leaks/bubbles/idle changes?
I haven't tried soapy water sprayed on there. When I took the carb off to clean it I accidently stripped the carb bolts. So I used slightly longer bolts and put jam nuts on the ends of them. I was able to cinch them down pretty darn tight.
I have read something on wiki that the 1984-1985 sprees have a different carb then the 86-87. Something about the 87 having better baffling within the carb to prevent fuel going into the wrong places?
Re: New Spree Owner Help!
Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2017 2:17 pm
by Meatball
Andrus wrote:
I have replaced spark plug
I have replaced bystarter
I have replaced ignition coil
What did you replace these with? Alot of the no-name replacement parts are absolute junk. Some are decent...most will cause more problems than they fix.
Re: New Spree Owner Help!
Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2017 2:28 pm
by Andrus
Meatball wrote:Andrus wrote:
I have replaced spark plug
I have replaced bystarter
I have replaced ignition coil
What did you replace these with? Alot of the no-name replacement parts are absolute junk. Some are decent...most will cause more problems than they fix.
Spark plug:
NGK BPR6HS
Ignition Coil:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B075H ... UTF8&psc=1
Bystarter:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Honda-Spree-NQ5 ... 2749.l2649
Re: New Spree Owner Help!
Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2017 2:29 pm
by Andrus
On the carb, there is a inlet or outlet not sure which on the bottom of the carb. Wiki labels this as "drain". Mine has no hose attached to it. Should there be a hose attached to it leading somewhere?
Re: New Spree Owner Help!
Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2017 3:57 pm
by motormike
Andrus wrote:On the carb, there is a inlet or outlet not sure which on the bottom of the carb. Wiki labels this as "drain". Mine has no hose attached to it. Should there be a hose attached to it leading somewhere?
Yes, there should be a hose on that outlet,
but it is strictly for routing any overflow away from hot engine parts to avoid fire.
Hanging down below the side cover is the place to route the hose.
Re: New Spree Owner Help!
Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2017 10:49 pm
by Andrus
Ok well then that isnÔÇÖt the problem.
Any one have ideas ?
Re: New Spree Owner Help!
Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2017 11:21 pm
by Meatball
Do some digging into the NQ50 service manual and check to see if the replacement coil you installed provides the correct voltage needed.