1985 Honda Spree is eating drive belts for dinner. Help!

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1985 Honda Spree is eating drive belts for dinner. Help!

Post by Trance88 » Wed Oct 18, 2017 12:52 am

I just replaced the drive belt a couple days ago. On my way home tonight, the BRAND NEW $20 belt snaps off as I'm going down the road just like the old one did. What could be causing this???
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Re: 1985 Honda Spree is eating drive belts for dinner. Help!

Post by Meatball » Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:22 am

You purchased this Spree on 9/17 and it has cut 2 belts? Seems as if theres a serious problem. Quite possibly the pulleys are not OEM. If the previous owner cobbled together some spare parts, it will cut belts all day.

I assume youve checked the typical things when recently changing the belt....pulley alignment, excessive wear/rust on pulley faces, anything sharp that could be rubbing the belt, are pulley faces clean of all oil/grease that could cause slippage? etc...

Take a close look at the broken "new" belt for clues. Does it look overheated? Signs of slipping on un-broken section? Is it a quality OEM Bando belt or chinese junk?

How did it act in the moments before it broke? Was there lack of power or acceleration to indicate slip?
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Re: 1985 Honda Spree is eating drive belts for dinner. Help!

Post by Trance88 » Wed Oct 18, 2017 6:11 am

Pulleys are original
It was pretty greasy around the drive system. I got as much of the junk off as I could. I did notice that the area that the belt sits in on the clutch was hard to compress.

In the 8 miles that I drove it home from work, I noticed the top speed gradually dropping until it wouldn't go faster than about 23mph and then "fwump" goes the belt.
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Re: 1985 Honda Spree is eating drive belts for dinner. Help!

Post by motormike » Wed Oct 18, 2017 10:15 am

First thought = wrong belt, too big, starting slipping immediately until it exploded.
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Re: 1985 Honda Spree is eating drive belts for dinner. Help!

Post by vintagegarage » Wed Oct 18, 2017 12:16 pm

Trance88 wrote: the area that the belt sits in on the clutch was hard to compress.
I don't understand what you mean by this. Please clarify.. thanks..

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Re: 1985 Honda Spree is eating drive belts for dinner. Help!

Post by Trance88 » Wed Oct 18, 2017 12:37 pm

Taking a look at the belt today, it jumped off the clutch and jammed itself into the clutch bell housing ripping all the teeth off the belt. There's no way its too big. This is an oem belt and was listed as the spree belt.

What I mean by the clutch being hard to compress is the area where you're supposed to squeeze the clutch with the spring to get the belt on was super hard to compress. Im wondering if it's too stiff and wasn't able to get it down far enough into the clutch pulley.
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Re: 1985 Honda Spree is eating drive belts for dinner. Help!

Post by motormike » Wed Oct 18, 2017 12:47 pm

Trance88 wrote: the belt jumped off the clutch and jammed itself into the clutch bell housing ripping all the teeth off the belt. There's no way its too big. This is an oem belt and was listed as the spree belt.
Seems virtually impossible with the correct belt.
Please tell us the part # of this OEM belt.
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Re: 1985 Honda Spree is eating drive belts for dinner. Help!

Post by Trance88 » Wed Oct 18, 2017 1:38 pm

motormike wrote:
Trance88 wrote: the belt jumped off the clutch and jammed itself into the clutch bell housing ripping all the teeth off the belt. There's no way its too big. This is an oem belt and was listed as the spree belt.
Seems virtually impossible with the correct belt.
Please tell us the part # of this OEM belt.
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Re: 1985 Honda Spree is eating drive belts for dinner. Help!

Post by Trance88 » Wed Oct 18, 2017 3:32 pm

could worn out clutch pads cause a belt to "derail" ?
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Re: 1985 Honda Spree is eating drive belts for dinner. Help!

Post by eclark5483 » Wed Oct 18, 2017 4:11 pm

No worn pads cause slipping and HP loss, your problem is probably driven face related.
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Re: 1985 Honda Spree is eating drive belts for dinner. Help!

Post by Trance88 » Wed Oct 18, 2017 4:33 pm

eclark5483 wrote:No worn pads cause slipping and HP loss, your problem is probably driven face related.
so, the part on the clutch pulley that springs back and forth?
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Re: 1985 Honda Spree is eating drive belts for dinner. Help!

Post by Trance88 » Wed Oct 18, 2017 9:38 pm

went ahead and got a replacement Clutch assembly and belt. hopefully this will solve the problem.
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Re: 1985 Honda Spree is eating drive belts for dinner. Help!

Post by Trance88 » Fri Oct 20, 2017 11:25 pm

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Taking a closer look at one of the front halves of the front drive face pulley. This baked on old belt material will not come off. I've tried taking carb cleaner to it and it will not penetrate it at all. I can't run it like this, can I? :confused:

Also, I've been looking everywhere for a replacement drive face with no luck. No one on ebay is selling them and everyone is out of stock.
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Re: 1985 Honda Spree is eating drive belts for dinner. Help!

Post by Jonadz » Fri Oct 20, 2017 11:43 pm

What year? I have a few good condition 85s (non kickstart) inner pieces will work on any year but outer I have on have wonÔÇÖt work on kickstart models.

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Re: 1985 Honda Spree is eating drive belts for dinner. Help!

Post by Jonadz » Fri Oct 20, 2017 11:45 pm

Sorry, just read title... 85! Shoot me a pm IÔÇÖll send you one for a cheap price.

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