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Elite intake on a Nifty 50

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 2:47 am
by SamDavy
Along with a set of parts bikes came a bike with whats left of a variated afo5e engine, including the carb/airbox/intake/reeds. I've seen people saying this can get me a few more k/ms. is it really as easy as just changing the bits over and take off down the road?

Re: Elite intake on a Nifty 50

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 9:27 am
by noiseguy
Without more specifics: You need a modified motor mount, you may need to remove the center stand, you may need a different shock or shock attachment point. Motor may not exactly fit sidepanels Wiring is simple and almost identical. Throttle will need to go from 1 cable to 2 cable, or you'll need to modify/plug pump and run pre-mix.

Re: Elite intake on a Nifty 50

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 4:34 pm
by SamDavy
So that's why I've got a slightly longer shock absorber. I couldn't work out why it came with these parts. The bike the variated afo5e was in had a stock motor mount and had the kickstand still attached. Aside from all that, what I was meaning was swapping the carb and intake from the variated to the standard, would this make any difference?

Re: Elite intake on a Nifty 50

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 5:22 pm
by bonesv
We better find out which elite we are talking about here first. Elite E or ES aka sb50 did have a variated af05 but it was not the same as the Elite se50 or sa50 af05 motors. I don't believe the nifty and 2nd (later) gen. af05 manifolds are interchangeable. This is easily solved though. Is your donor Elites' intake manifold 2 bolt?

Re: Elite intake on a Nifty 50

Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2018 8:48 pm
by SamDavy
I've had a second look, the carb and intake are identical to a standard spree/nifty. That's my 2nd spare carb to the collection, somebody has re-threaded it with what looks like springs and is using allen key bolts, much like the rest of the parts I have. not complaining about surplus! I'll get a couple pictures of the casing and maybe you can help identify, although from memory the intake is a 2 bolt, yes.

Re: Elite intake on a Nifty 50

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:29 pm
by motormike
SamDavy wrote: somebody has re-threaded it with what looks like springs

The "springs" are a proper thread repair item sold under the name "Helicoil"... :urban:

Re: Elite intake on a Nifty 50

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 6:36 pm
by SamDavy
motormike wrote:
SamDavy wrote: somebody has re-threaded it with what looks like springs

The "springs" are a proper thread repair item sold under the name "Helicoil"... :urban:
I'll have to keep that in mind! although the more its bolted and unbolted the springs appear to me unscrewing out the other side.

Re: Elite intake on a Nifty 50

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 6:47 pm
by motormike
SamDavy wrote:
motormike wrote:
SamDavy wrote: somebody has re-threaded it with what looks like springs

The "springs" are a proper thread repair item sold under the name "Helicoil"... :urban:
I'll have to keep that in mind! although the more its bolted and unbolted the springs appear to me unscrewing out the other side.
Understood.
I'm am not familiar with Helicoil installation in a hole that passes through.
My experience is when applied to a blind hole.
Search for Helicoil instructions to check for a correcting procedure.