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86 Spree won't stay running

Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 10:51 pm
by Shawn
I recently bought a 1986 Spree that the motor was seized up on. I bought a top end kit off of Amazon and installed it. I also took apart the carburetor and cleaned it, and also cleaned the gas tank. The bike will now start and rev up, then immediately die when you put fuel or starting fluid in the spark plug hole. Any suggestions on what is causing this?

Re: 86 Spree won't stay running

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 2:04 pm
by motormike
Your explanation is very puzzling.
Why are you putting fuel or starting fluid in the spark plug hole,
especially when it is starting and revs up fine ?
Secondly, it is impossible to having a running engine with the spark plug
OUT OF THE HOLE.! ! ! ? ? ?
Please clarify your statements...mm

Re: 86 Spree won't stay running

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 3:15 pm
by Shawn
Wow genius! Judging by your response, I wouldn't want your advice anyway.

Re: 86 Spree won't stay running

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 3:32 pm
by eclark5483
Good luck with that issue.

Re: 86 Spree won't stay running

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 3:39 pm
by Meatball
You put gas in the spark plug hole...its starts then dies. Its obviously having problems supplying fuel to KEEP it running.

Basics is simplified to 3 categories: Suck, Bang, Blow

Your issue seems to be “Bang”...for this it requires spark and fuel. Which element is deficient? Verify spark and look to fuel. Faulty petcock would be my first look. Then carb.

Also, dont be a dlck

Re: 86 Spree won't stay running

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 3:49 pm
by Shawn
Thanks for the advice. The other person was being a *.

Re: 86 Spree won't stay running

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 4:13 pm
by Meatball
FYI: the other person is a Moderator for this forum. He has given sound tech advice to many hundreds of people in need....including myself. Clearly you have misinterpreted his helpful intent as I assure you it was genuine. No matter how many years I’ve been playing with small engines I remain humble knowing theres always more to learn. Thanks to people like MotorMike, I have this resource to turn to when I have questions.

Re: 86 Spree won't stay running

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 4:35 pm
by Shawn
My apologies to all. I just really felt like the guy was just being a smart *. I was just trying to post an honest question. Thanks for the advice given. In the future I will not ask any more questions.

Re: 86 Spree won't stay running

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 5:28 pm
by Meatball
Ask all the questions you want...just toughen up your tender feelings and dont get butthurt every time you dont get a powder puff answer. Use specific details with your questions to give people the crucial information needed to provide informed advice. Youd be surprised how many people ask “My scooter wont start. Whats wrong with it?” While providing NO other information.

Theres nothing but love on these boards...sometimes tough love, my brotha! Now get that scooter running and RIDE!

Re: 86 Spree won't stay running

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 5:29 pm
by Meatball
:peace:

Re: 86 Spree won't stay running

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 6:22 pm
by Shawn
f*** yourself douche bag!

Re: 86 Spree won't stay running

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 6:24 pm
by Shawn
*, you might even get more * by * yourself! LOL

Re: 86 Spree won't stay running

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 8:10 pm
by Meatball
Lololololol

Re: 86 Spree won't stay running

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 11:01 pm
by motormike
Member "Shawn" will not be posting any comments for one month.
Such a display of vulgarity and insults gains him the most severe punishment possible without being banned permanently.
There will not be any second chance for Shawn when he decides to post again in 30 days.
Any further adolescent behavior and disrespectful actions will result in sudden and permanent banning.
I'm sorry that Shawn doesn't have the English skills needed to create a thread that is clear and makes sense.
Thank you Meatball for the defense as my reply was honest and genuinely looking to help Shawn with his problem. :urban:


Re: 86 Spree won't stay running

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2018 10:38 am
by Wheelman-111
Greetings:

Lack of spark seems unlikely. Assuming the top end was installed airtight, compression will be presumed to be adequate. That leaves fuel in or exhaust out. My money is on a faulty petcock and/or float valve. If the spark plug (try a NEW one...) is dry, no gas is getting down from the tank.
The function of petcock and float valve are fairly easy to check by disconnecting the vacuum line from the carb/manifold and applying negative pressure. If the carb then fills - there's a drain screw at the bottom of the bowl to determine this -, the petcock would seem functional. If the carb keeps leaking out, the float valve isn't maintaining the fuel level in the bowl correctly and the engine is flooding. A gassy smell and wet plug would be the clue. 9 out of 10 times, the idle circuit is clogged if the scooter sat for a year or more. Finally check the exhaust for carbon build-up if the scooter has high mileage.