86 Honda Spree won't start I've tried everything

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Re: 86 Honda Spree won't start I've tried everything

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Okay so i changed the seals but i cant seem to get the drive belt back on. It doesn't seem to fit like it did before taking it off. Is there any special way this is supposed to be put back on?
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Force the rear pulleys open (its tough) and force the belt as deep into the opened pulleys as you can. This gives enough slack to get the front drive face on with belt.
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Cant see what you mean. I tried pulling the two plates behind the stator apart but i couldnt figure it out. Any tool i can use?
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The clutch pullies, man...force the belt as deep into them as you can. That gives all the belt slack you need to get the front together. Its a tough spring and wants to slam shut on you. Gotta use muscle.
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Hehe, try doing my daughter's, her TaoTao had a 2500 rpm contra spring, wanna talk about hard getting the belt on. That one took a man and a boy to close.
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Too stupid to figure this out ive tried looking online for hours lol anyone have a video/diy that shows how to do it?
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When you wrap the belt around the clutch it sits at the top since the center spring keeps the sheaves shut. Like this:
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Squeeze the sheaves open while forcing the belt deep between them. This gives you tons of belt slack to assemble front pullies easily....like this:
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Got it back in but it still wont start. Im just gonna bite the bullet and take it to the mechanic. Doesn't seem like ill get it going
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Re: 86 Honda Spree won't start I've tried everything

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Only use the kick starter to start for now. Do another compression test and report findings. also be sure the spark plug cap is firmly connecting to the plug. Reset carb air/fuel screw to 1 full turn out (L) from closed (all the way in) and allow 12-16 kicker strokes to fill the fuel bowl.
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Yep, keep at that kicker, don't kick hard and get frustrated, gotta give compression and vacuum enough time to open , fill that bowl and get flow going, sometimes it takes a while.
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Okay, ill keep at it. I'll do the test tomorrow.
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Step 1 should be to put your location into your profile. If you live near me, I will come over and fix your scooter for free.
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I live in washington. I'm from seattle but im off in college so im about 6 hours from home and i dont think anyone lives near pullman lol. Anyways I did the compression test and it came back 15 haha. It was at 75 before i checked for the rings and put in the new gaskets. I probably messed something up then. What should be my next step?
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Re: 86 Honda Spree won't start I've tried everything

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That also explains why it wont even start with starter fluid now.
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