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I just picked up a couple of scooters. 1984 Spree and 1988 Elite (SA50.) Does anyone know if the SA50 frame (specifically the engine mount tabs) are the same from 1988 - 2001? I know Honda switched from the variated AF05E to the AF16 in 1994. Reason I ask is I have a variated AF05E I'd like to put in '94 SA50 frame. It's currently mounted in a parts scooter so I thought I'd ask before I take everything apart.

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YES! The SA50 frame and motor mount stayed the same from 1988 to 2001...even though the motor changed to the AF16 in 1994.

The frame and mount were different only on the 87’ SE50.
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Honda50 wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:38 am I just picked up a couple of scooters. 1984 Spree and 1988 Elite (SA50.) Does anyone know if the SA50 frame (specifically the engine mount tabs) are the same from 1988 - 2001? I know Honda switched from the variated AF05E to the AF16 in 1994. Reason I ask is I have a variated AF05E I'd like to put in '94 SA50 frame. It's currently mounted in a parts scooter so I thought I'd ask before I take everything apart.

Thanks!
You have to use the af05 motor hanger with the af05 motor to accomplish this. The af16 motor uses a larger diameter bolt and motor bushing than the af05. You could swap out the af05 motor bushing to an af16 motor bushing and use the af16 hanger and bolt.
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Ahhh, yes. I forgot about the motor bolt diameter change.

The quick reply caught me slippin’

If your variated AF05 is currently mounted (as mentioned), I assume it has its own mount with it. Use THAT mount and it will bolt up to your 94’ SA50 frame nicely....its when you use the AF16 mount for an AF05 motor is when you need a bushing swap or a spacer.
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Thanks for the responses. i have been running all over town gathering up junk Honda scoots. I’ve gathered four in four days. Hopefully I have enough stuff to build two good ones.
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Cool. What kind of scoots did you pick up so far?
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