Got a new Honda Dio! NOW SHE WONT START AT ALL
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Got a new Honda Dio! NOW SHE WONT START AT ALL
So I picked this 94 Dio scooter up today. Im going to attempt to get it running. Im going to start with a good carb cleaning. Before I take it off, can you tell me if this hose should be connected somewhere? Or if it just hang free like that? Its the brownish one in the pic.
Thanks!!
Thanks!!
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The semi-transparent orange-y one appears to be the float bowl drain. Confirm by unscrewing the brass screw adjacent the hose a turn or two and see if gasoline flows out - presuming there's fuel in the system.
I can't quite see where the black one goes from your photos, but maybe someone knows this setup. It's definitely different from my Aero.
HTH
I can't quite see where the black one goes from your photos, but maybe someone knows this setup. It's definitely different from my Aero.
HTH
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Most of my money is spent on scooterparts. The rest is just wasted.
"ISO": '03 Vespa ET4 Malossi187 74MPH
Flash 9: 2001 Elite SR Contesta 72 ZX Tran, 9:1 Gears, Stock Airbox/Carb/Pipe 58.8 MPH
Punkin: 2010 Vespa/Malossi S78, 61MPH
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So I got the carb cleaned and re-installed. Now the bike has spark, compression AND(i think) fuel. Still wont start. A couple of times when I kicked it over it sounded a little like it wanted to start. It sounded like it fired a little. It just wont turn over on its own and fire up!! Would a little quick start help??
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Take the air cleaner off of it, the whole housing. Remove it from the scoot and set it aside.scooternewby wrote:So I got the carb cleaned and re-installed. Now the bike has spark, compression AND(i think) fuel. Still wont start. A couple of times when I kicked it over it sounded a little like it wanted to start. It sounded like it fired a little. It just wont turn over on its own and fire up!! Would a little quick start help??
Take your hand or if you have a friend nearby use theirs, Take the hand and completely cover the opening to the carb so that no air can enter the carb.
With the hand covering the carb opening, proceed to kick over the bike like you are trying to start it.
After a few kicks remove your hand and try to start it again.
The problem is that it has a vacuum petcock on it. So while covering the carb with a hand and while kicking it over it creates vacuum to allow the fuel to fill up that carb's bowl.
Try that and then report back to us.
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That carb in the picture is different from the carbs I have on both my Dio's. I have one on my desk in front of me off of my 95 that I just cleaned.
Its pretty similar but yet its different. Most noticeably is where the carb adjusting screws are. Must be a replacement type carb that you have because the screws should go from top to bottom, where as that one it looks like 2 of them are side by side.
Dont worry about it though, lets get it running.
Its pretty similar but yet its different. Most noticeably is where the carb adjusting screws are. Must be a replacement type carb that you have because the screws should go from top to bottom, where as that one it looks like 2 of them are side by side.
Dont worry about it though, lets get it running.
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That totaly worked It fired up and ran for around 20 seconds! I didnt try to restart it after that. Too dark in my back yard!ALOW1 wrote:Take the air cleaner off of it, the whole housing. Remove it from the scoot and set it aside.scooternewby wrote:So I got the carb cleaned and re-installed. Now the bike has spark, compression AND(i think) fuel. Still wont start. A couple of times when I kicked it over it sounded a little like it wanted to start. It sounded like it fired a little. It just wont turn over on its own and fire up!! Would a little quick start help??
Take your hand or if you have a friend nearby use theirs, Take the hand and completely cover the opening to the carb so that no air can enter the carb.
With the hand covering the carb opening, proceed to kick over the bike like you are trying to start it.
After a few kicks remove your hand and try to start it again.
The problem is that it has a vacuum petcock on it. So while covering the carb with a hand and while kicking it over it creates vacuum to allow the fuel to fill up that carb's bowl.
Try that and then report back to us.
So i'll try again in the morning. Can I expect it to stay running? Or is that just a diagnostic measure?
Thanks so much. Im REALLY happy with the results!
It should stay running after that.scooternewby wrote:That totaly worked It fired up and ran for around 20 seconds! I didnt try to restart it after that. Too dark in my back yard!ALOW1 wrote:Take the air cleaner off of it, the whole housing. Remove it from the scoot and set it aside.scooternewby wrote:So I got the carb cleaned and re-installed. Now the bike has spark, compression AND(i think) fuel. Still wont start. A couple of times when I kicked it over it sounded a little like it wanted to start. It sounded like it fired a little. It just wont turn over on its own and fire up!! Would a little quick start help??
Take your hand or if you have a friend nearby use theirs, Take the hand and completely cover the opening to the carb so that no air can enter the carb.
With the hand covering the carb opening, proceed to kick over the bike like you are trying to start it.
After a few kicks remove your hand and try to start it again.
The problem is that it has a vacuum petcock on it. So while covering the carb with a hand and while kicking it over it creates vacuum to allow the fuel to fill up that carb's bowl.
Try that and then report back to us.
So i'll try again in the morning. Can I expect it to stay running? Or is that just a diagnostic measure?
Thanks so much. Im REALLY happy with the results!
Make sure your air screw is adjusted right. Screw it in till the screw is tight. Do not like tighten it or anything just bottom it out, you do not want to put any torque to it, just finger tighten it.
Then you will need to back the screw out from there.
If it is a SA50P then its an Elite SR.
If its an SA50 then its an Elite S.
For the SA50 you need to back the screw out 1 and 7/8's of a turn.
For the SA50P you will need to back the screw out 1 and 3/4 of a turn.
Those are the factory settings.
For the idle speed screw, your going to want to have it running. Take a screwdriver and adjust it in or out till the clutch stops trying to grab. IE you do not want it idling so high that it tries to get away from you. But you do not want it idling to low or it might try to die on you.
Most people suggest putting it on the center stand (kickstand) and adjust the idle screw till the wheel stops spinning when the bike is running.
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Is it an Elite S, or and Elite SR? Or do you not know?scooternewby wrote:Thats great advice! Where do I look to see if its an SA50P or an SA50?
Thanks again so much.
I believe it will say under the seat when you open it up. There is some stickers there in the tub that would hold your helmet and what not. I believe it says it there and also will tell you the paint code in case you do not know what color it originally was or is.