Will start with kick ,but lost battery power

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Will start with kick ,but lost battery power

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It was working and now is not,by passed the fuzz and starts with the kick starter,but will not start with the electric starter,any ideas what to look at?
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Have 4, 84-86 Sprees
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-87 elite 50 engine
-90 jet
-9 and 10 gram rollers
-Highly ported intake and exhaust
-custom performance muffler
3 original sprees. A red, black and white
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Post by Wheelman-111 »

Greetings:

Quoth Bossshelby:
by passed the fuzz...
Uhh, Whut?

Starting checklist includes battery voltage & connections, relay connections, Starter motor operation, and the Binding Bendix Blues. Can't check and fix from here without more information. You'll need to do some disassembly or take it to someone.
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I have never got the electric start to work well a spree once the motor is warmed up.
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No power

Post by Bossshelby »

Sorry,everything work great ,then I went back to restart it and when the key was turned on,I had not tail light and no power.Battery good,connections good,fuzz good.Checked with test light and getting power to the relay on the right,next to the battery.Not sure where to look next.
Have 4, 84-86 Sprees
Sprite-85 Honda spree
-87 elite 50 engine
-90 jet
-9 and 10 gram rollers
-Highly ported intake and exhaust
-custom performance muffler
3 original sprees. A red, black and white
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Post by dreamer1uk »

Hi,

Did you check through the trouble shooting guide in the owners manual and look at the wiring diagram?

And what do you mean by "the fuzz is good"?

Did you check for voltage going to the starter and to the tail light? How are your ground connections?

You can also bench test Relays too to check the control circuit part of the relay.
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Post by mousewheels »

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Since you are using a test light for troubleshooting - here's what I'd do - numbers match the picture.

1) Relay coil 'high side'
Connect test lamp to G/Y at the starter relay. Turn on ign, Pull either brake handle. Test lamp should light.

2) Start Button/Relay coil 'low side'
Connect test lamp to Yellow/Red stripe wire at starter relay.
a) Pull the handbrake with ign on as in test 1. Test lamp should light.
No light? - bad relay coil, broken wire connection.
b) Keep the handbrake pulled, and press the 'Start' button, test light should go off. Light on --> fix starter switch or wiring in start button circuit.

3) If the above tests were ok, put test light on Red with White stripe wire on relay output, Activate brake and start button. No power -> Bad Relay
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Great response!!!

Post by Bossshelby »

Thanks for giving me some more to look at .I will let you know what I find out is the problem.Fuse,not fuzz Woop's!!!!Always in a hurry!!
Have 4, 84-86 Sprees
Sprite-85 Honda spree
-87 elite 50 engine
-90 jet
-9 and 10 gram rollers
-Highly ported intake and exhaust
-custom performance muffler
3 original sprees. A red, black and white
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Did some checking

Post by Bossshelby »

Well,it looks like it might be the relay,as it does not do the tings that it should be doing.I can jump it and it will start.Looking for a good one to try.
Have 4, 84-86 Sprees
Sprite-85 Honda spree
-87 elite 50 engine
-90 jet
-9 and 10 gram rollers
-Highly ported intake and exhaust
-custom performance muffler
3 original sprees. A red, black and white
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