What exactly do I have, and how could I make it faster?
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What exactly do I have, and how could I make it faster?
It is a 1989 Honda Elite. But I don't know which variation of the Elite it is.
VIN is JH2AF1701KK113517
It was originally black but has been painted blue.
It has been in the shop for 2 weeks getting a full workover. It runs great.
Wondering if and how I can make this faster. The guys at Moto-Scoot in Milwaukee seem to know what they're doing and said the first thing to do to make it faster would be to drill something out in the muffler, so I had them do that.
Are there any more performance parts that I can get that will be an easy install? I don't know too much about engines, so I'm looking for something that won't involve cutting and welding.
Let me know if you guys have any info
VIN is JH2AF1701KK113517
It was originally black but has been painted blue.
It has been in the shop for 2 weeks getting a full workover. It runs great.
Wondering if and how I can make this faster. The guys at Moto-Scoot in Milwaukee seem to know what they're doing and said the first thing to do to make it faster would be to drill something out in the muffler, so I had them do that.
Are there any more performance parts that I can get that will be an easy install? I don't know too much about engines, so I'm looking for something that won't involve cutting and welding.
Let me know if you guys have any info
1986 Honda Spree
1989 Honda Elite E
2001 Honda Elite SR
1989 Honda Elite E
2001 Honda Elite SR
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Re: What exactly do I have, and how could I make it faster?
Greetings:
Welcome. Everything you need to know is in this forum and WikiSpreedia. Start readin'.
Welcome. Everything you need to know is in this forum and WikiSpreedia. Start readin'.
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Most of my money is spent on scooterparts. The rest is just wasted.
"ISO": '03 Vespa ET4 Malossi187 74MPH
Flash 9: 2001 Elite SR Contesta 72 ZX Tran, 9:1 Gears, Stock Airbox/Carb/Pipe 58.8 MPH
Punkin: 2010 Vespa/Malossi S78, 61MPH
Most of my money is spent on scooterparts. The rest is just wasted.
"ISO": '03 Vespa ET4 Malossi187 74MPH
Flash 9: 2001 Elite SR Contesta 72 ZX Tran, 9:1 Gears, Stock Airbox/Carb/Pipe 58.8 MPH
Punkin: 2010 Vespa/Malossi S78, 61MPH
Re: What exactly do I have, and how could I make it faster?
without a gear mod there is no potential for this engine
some people dream of speed, i own your dreams!
Re: What exactly do I have, and how could I make it faster?
Don't listen to maddog he never has anything positive to say.maddog wrote:without a gear mod there is no potential for this engine
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Re: What exactly do I have, and how could I make it faster?
Greetings:
Check under the saddle. There may be a sticker with a model code. I suspect it might be SB50, which is the Elite "E". If so unfortunately there are few options and little hope of it exceeding 40 MPH, if that, without swapping engines.
If it says SA50, there are tons of ways to make it faster, all the way up to 60 and beyond. (Despite what some people tell you...) That'd be an Elite 50 LX in that model year.
See if it looks more like this or more like THIS.
Check under the saddle. There may be a sticker with a model code. I suspect it might be SB50, which is the Elite "E". If so unfortunately there are few options and little hope of it exceeding 40 MPH, if that, without swapping engines.
If it says SA50, there are tons of ways to make it faster, all the way up to 60 and beyond. (Despite what some people tell you...) That'd be an Elite 50 LX in that model year.
See if it looks more like this or more like THIS.
Wheelman-111
Most of my money is spent on scooterparts. The rest is just wasted.
"ISO": '03 Vespa ET4 Malossi187 74MPH
Flash 9: 2001 Elite SR Contesta 72 ZX Tran, 9:1 Gears, Stock Airbox/Carb/Pipe 58.8 MPH
Punkin: 2010 Vespa/Malossi S78, 61MPH
Most of my money is spent on scooterparts. The rest is just wasted.
"ISO": '03 Vespa ET4 Malossi187 74MPH
Flash 9: 2001 Elite SR Contesta 72 ZX Tran, 9:1 Gears, Stock Airbox/Carb/Pipe 58.8 MPH
Punkin: 2010 Vespa/Malossi S78, 61MPH
Re: What exactly do I have, and how could I make it faster?
It's definitely the SB50. Elite E.
Do I have any other options to make it get up to 40 other than drilling out the exhaust?
Do I have any other options to make it get up to 40 other than drilling out the exhaust?
1986 Honda Spree
1989 Honda Elite E
2001 Honda Elite SR
1989 Honda Elite E
2001 Honda Elite SR
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Re: What exactly do I have, and how could I make it faster?
Swap in a Dio!
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Re: What exactly do I have, and how could I make it faster?
Hey don't dis the Elite E.
I put in a 86cc version of the Dio in mine. Still looks pretty stock, is fairly quiet but will go 60 with current 9.1:1 gearing. I have thought about longer legs (gears) but the Elite E doesn't have the handling or brakes IMO.
I sold my old motor to TAz he was going to make a EliteE run 50.
I put in a 86cc version of the Dio in mine. Still looks pretty stock, is fairly quiet but will go 60 with current 9.1:1 gearing. I have thought about longer legs (gears) but the Elite E doesn't have the handling or brakes IMO.
I sold my old motor to TAz he was going to make a EliteE run 50.
1989 Elite E with 86cc Dio
Rumia 50mm bore, mini-stroker, 28mm Oko, modified m-x pipe, Carbonfiber reinforced frame.
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Rumia 50mm bore, mini-stroker, 28mm Oko, modified m-x pipe, Carbonfiber reinforced frame.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKSvdjxvBUA
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Re: What exactly do I have, and how could I make it faster?
thats not true...ask him about HIS bike...then it's all positivetoad772 wrote:Don't listen to maddog he never has anything positive to say.maddog wrote:without a gear mod there is no potential for this engine
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Re: What exactly do I have, and how could I make it faster?
But how come no one else has ever seen this bike or can vouch for it's unbelievable performance?fightingplankton wrote:thats not true...ask him about HIS bike...then it's all positivetoad772 wrote:Don't listen to maddog he never has anything positive to say.maddog wrote:without a gear mod there is no potential for this engine
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Re: What exactly do I have, and how could I make it faster?
My honda pal goes 37mph on a flat surface. It is the same as the elite e engine. I have the 48mm BBK and the gear ratio. It takes off like stock but once it hits 3 or 4 mph it kicks in real nice. I had my pal going 44mph going down hill. I will post some pics of my pal restore soon. The 48mm kit will fit the elite e(sb50).
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Re: What exactly do I have, and how could I make it faster?
If I were to install the 48mm BBK, would I have to do more than just put it on? For example would I have to mess with the carburetor to tune it?
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Re: What exactly do I have, and how could I make it faster?
You would have to get your head bored and change the jet in your carbgotwake5 wrote:If I were to install the 48mm BBK, would I have to do more than just put it on? For example would I have to mess with the carburetor to tune it?
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Re: What exactly do I have, and how could I make it faster?
Greetings:
Quoth TJz:
Several Forumistas have reported success with the 68cc SB. I'm still not clear how to address the tiny and fixed Pilot circuit in the stock carb. Unlike most carbs, you cannot simply swap to a richer Low Speed jet. Perhaps raising the needle and turning the air bleed clockwise richens the low end sufficiently? Someone with Actual Experience should comment.
Quoth TJz:
I agree with the larger carb jet, but it's probably better to bore out the scooter's cylinder head than your own.You would have to get your head bored (Emphasis added.) and change the jet in your carb
Several Forumistas have reported success with the 68cc SB. I'm still not clear how to address the tiny and fixed Pilot circuit in the stock carb. Unlike most carbs, you cannot simply swap to a richer Low Speed jet. Perhaps raising the needle and turning the air bleed clockwise richens the low end sufficiently? Someone with Actual Experience should comment.
Wheelman-111
Most of my money is spent on scooterparts. The rest is just wasted.
"ISO": '03 Vespa ET4 Malossi187 74MPH
Flash 9: 2001 Elite SR Contesta 72 ZX Tran, 9:1 Gears, Stock Airbox/Carb/Pipe 58.8 MPH
Punkin: 2010 Vespa/Malossi S78, 61MPH
Most of my money is spent on scooterparts. The rest is just wasted.
"ISO": '03 Vespa ET4 Malossi187 74MPH
Flash 9: 2001 Elite SR Contesta 72 ZX Tran, 9:1 Gears, Stock Airbox/Carb/Pipe 58.8 MPH
Punkin: 2010 Vespa/Malossi S78, 61MPH
Re: What exactly do I have, and how could I make it faster?
i tell it like it is
some people dream of speed, i own your dreams!