1987 elite SE50P de-restrict

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Re: 1987 elite SE50P de-restrict

Post by Red Eft Performance » Tue Jun 17, 2014 8:13 pm

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Re: 1987 elite SE50P de-restrict

Post by captainandy » Thu Jul 10, 2014 3:50 pm

I'm new to the forum but this is exactly what I need to do. Have an 87 SE50P, and I understand what I need to do, but I still need help with one thing: where can I get these parts? I'm having trouble finding a good source for the variator and the exhaust. Is there a good source for these two parts anyone can direct me to?

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Re: 1987 elite SE50P de-restrict

Post by motormike » Thu Jul 10, 2014 4:23 pm

captainandy wrote:I'm new to the forum but this is exactly what I need to do. Have an 87 SE50P, and I understand what I need to do, but I still need help with one thing: where can I get these parts? I'm having trouble finding a good source for the variator and the exhaust. Is there a good source for these two parts anyone can direct me to?
The short answer is no... :confused:
but the parts you need are offered here occasionally.
I have managed to acquire the ramp plate from one member,
and today an un-restricted pipe arrived, purchased from another member.
I will go to my Honda dealer to buy an #85 main jet.
G'luck with your searches... :urban:
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Re: 1987 elite SE50P de-restrict

Post by benji » Fri Oct 23, 2015 5:18 pm

Not sure if your still looking for a cheap way to mod the unrestricted stock muffler, but I've got a way. If you look at it from the rear, there's an outlet on the bottom right of the flange in the middle. If you drill a 1/2 to 3/4 inch hole on the middle left, it'll bypass the second chamber of the muffler turning it into a high flow expansion chamber (sort of) sounds like a harley haha

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Re: 1987 elite SE50P de-restrict

Post by 808se50 » Wed Nov 11, 2015 7:09 pm

What about a 87 elite with the afo5e?

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Re: 1987 elite SE50P de-restrict

Post by llorcskcol » Thu Aug 22, 2019 2:46 am

I dont see the dif in the suppressors, would you be able to demonstrate to me what/disclose to me what is differant. I have completed a dio swap on my binge and I got a variated engine out of a 2001 tip top, I wanna know whether im confined, I was going to purchase a secondary selling fumes in any case.

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Re: 1987 elite SE50P de-restrict

Post by Meatball » Thu Aug 22, 2019 10:37 am

Are you asking what the restrictions are on an exhaust from 2001 motor or an 87’? Pictures of what exhaust you have would help.
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Re: 1987 elite SE50P de-restrict

Post by Brivander » Sun Sep 22, 2019 10:10 pm

Bringing this up from the dead as well. I installed the Technigas pipe on my 87’ Elite SE50P today, couple issues.

1). New mounts in the back push the pipe out about an inch, bought longer stainless bolts, and stainless sleeves and fill the “void”between the pipe and mounting positions so it would bolt down flush and not torque the pipe.

2). Moving the pipe outboard does not allow you to get the the kickstand on the pipe side of the bike.

3). Kickstand now hits the muffler, I’ll add a stop / bushing on it later.

Motor is 100% stock, during this I added the pipe (way larger diameter) and 84 main jet. Speed jumped from between 29/30 to almost exactly 35 on level ground. I’m 6’3” 225-230 depending on dinner . Every has said the Technigas isn’t a hi-po pipe, but the difference in mid-range and high rpm was huge, not bad for $100. Pulls hard until 31/32 and slowly pulls to 35, on even a slight downhill quite a bit more.

Next up variator, hoping to see low-mid 40’s. Since I got more out of the pipe than expected, should be easy. Using the Keli speed pulley and race variator (Aero 50).

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Re: 1987 elite SE50P de-restrict

Post by Brivander » Sun Sep 22, 2019 10:12 pm

FYI, as noted in this thread there is NO washer to grind out on the stock exhaust. You need a new aftermarket pipe, or an Aero pipe.

AND...the Technigas is hardly louder than stock if you have neighbors like me.
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Re: 1987 elite SE50P de-restrict

Post by GSX1400 » Wed Oct 23, 2019 4:13 am

eliteguy50 wrote:
Fri Aug 31, 2012 9:26 am
The non restricted plate is NLA (no longer available) from Honda here in the States. Several of us have used plates if that would interest/help you.
Hello everyone, I met someone here in France who has the same 1986 Aero 50/Vision as mine. AF05E engine.
He'd like to de-restrict too as I did changing the plate.
Would someone happen to have another OEM one from a non restricted version and willing to sell it overseas?

:hi:

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Re: 1987 elite SE50P de-restrict

Post by GSX1400 » Wed Oct 23, 2019 4:19 am

Brivander wrote:
Sun Sep 22, 2019 10:12 pm
FYI, as noted in this thread there is NO washer to grind out on the stock exhaust. You need a new aftermarket pipe, or an Aero pipe.
Must depend on which market it was sold.
See here : viewtopic.php?f=1&t=24745#p219467
I had to grind the washer out of mine.

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Re: 1987 elite SE50P de-restrict

Post by Brivander » Wed Oct 23, 2019 7:49 am

GSX1400 wrote:
Wed Oct 23, 2019 4:19 am
Brivander wrote:
Sun Sep 22, 2019 10:12 pm
FYI, as noted in this thread there is NO washer to grind out on the stock exhaust. You need a new aftermarket pipe, or an Aero pipe.
Must depend on which market it was sold.
See here : viewtopic.php?f=1&t=24745#p219467
I had to grind the washer out of mine.
Good to know, that's interesting.
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Re: 1987 elite SE50P de-restrict

Post by Brivander » Wed Oct 23, 2019 8:12 am

GSX1400 wrote:
Wed Oct 23, 2019 4:13 am
eliteguy50 wrote:
Fri Aug 31, 2012 9:26 am
The non restricted plate is NLA (no longer available) from Honda here in the States. Several of us have used plates if that would interest/help you.
Hello everyone, I met someone here in France who has the same 1986 Aero 50/Vision as mine. AF05E engine.
He'd like to de-restrict too as I did changing the plate.
Would someone happen to have another OEM one from a non restricted version and willing to sell it overseas?

:hi:
Just buy the Kelli Variator and Plate, it's $41 on ebay. Looks like the seller will not ship outside the USA, so I would contact him ahead of buying. He's been super helpful for me.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/85-87-Honda-Ae ... 2749.l2649
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Re: 1987 elite SE50P de-restrict

Post by GSX1400 » Wed Oct 23, 2019 9:19 am

Is the seller in Hawai'i? My brother lives there.
But with the shipping fees and taxes...that will be expensive.

Moreover we have legal issues here with these performance parts as they're not Honda parts so in case of an (important = body injuries) accident, insurance experts have a close eye on performance parts on mopeds and the like.
But those experts won't spot an unrestricted Honda ramp plate from a restricted Honda one...these scoots are too old and scarce here now for the knowledge to still be up to date.
You have to play low profil and sleeper mode...

BTW :
GSX1400 wrote:
Wed Oct 23, 2019 7:39 am
Question :
Is this ramp plate an unrestricted one
https://www.cmsnl.com/honda-nb50m-1985- ... bA76pozbIU

It is meant for a UK market version.

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Re: 1987 elite SE50P de-restrict

Post by Brivander » Wed Oct 23, 2019 9:53 am

GSX1400 wrote:
Wed Oct 23, 2019 9:19 am
Is the seller in Hawai'i? My brother lives there.
But with the shipping fees and taxes...that will be expensive.

Moreover we have legal issues here with these performance parts as they're not Honda parts so in case of an (important = body injuries) accident, insurance experts have a close eye on performance parts on mopeds and the like.
But those experts won't spot an unrestricted Honda ramp plate from a restricted Honda one...these scoots are too old and scarce here now for the knowledge to still be up to date.
You have to play low profil and sleeper mode...

BTW :
GSX1400 wrote:
Wed Oct 23, 2019 7:39 am
Question :
Is this ramp plate an unrestricted one
https://www.cmsnl.com/honda-nb50m-1985- ... bA76pozbIU

It is meant for a UK market version.

Ah, I see.
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