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how big of engine swap?

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 9:45 pm
by Streetglow
how big of engine do you think a spree could hold? :lol:
I had this crazy idea to drop an aero 150 engine in the back and see what happens

Re: how big of engine swap?

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 12:00 am
by hrnytrtlsgsxr
Streetglow wrote:how big of engine do you think a spree could hold? :lol:
I had this crazy idea to drop an aero 150 engine in the back and see what happens
The handa elite S motor would be the best choise. You can modify the 87 motr mount or eeld the eliote C mount to the spree mount. Also move the shock bolt for the motor. The you can as big as you wasnt. if you are thinkin of an aero i would choose an aero 80 or 125 two-stroke.

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 4:40 pm
by noiseguy
Loncin (Chinese) makes a 125/150cc scooter motor. Yamaha design, totally aircooled, 12" rear wheel. Dirt cheap and readily available on the mainland, but a 4-stroke. Elite 150's were 4-stroke and water cooled; the radiator would be a pain to mount.

Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 10:42 pm
by bitteraspects
like hrnytrtlsgsxr said. dio is probably your best bet. plus then you can add all kinds of preformance parts to it and stroke the motor. it wont be quite 150 like the aero. but i gaurantee it will be MUCH faster. even if you go with a small stroker like a 102 :twisted:

Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 12:14 am
by Kikwear
How much can one expect to spend on a complete transfomation to a dio powerplant from stock?

Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 2:36 am
by hrnytrtlsgsxr
sym motor stock $300 to $400 plus shipping. 87 motor mount about $75.Class * bolt with fiber nut and washer for motor mount $10. Costs more the more youmodify.

Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 2:48 pm
by noiseguy
hrnytrtlsgsxr wrote:sym motor stock $300 to $400 plus shipping. 87 motor mount about $75.Class * bolt with fiber nut and washer for motor mount $10. Costs more the more youmodify.
Hey, do you have a line on a shop that will ship those to the mainland?

Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 7:14 pm
by hrnytrtlsgsxr
i wouls say KS cycle ,scooter alley and glenn's are the shops that might still sell the sym motors. When i get home I'll find the numbers.unless someone posts it before i do.

Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 10:08 pm
by bitteraspects
quik fix 1 808 536 2277
glenns cycle supply 1 808 732 5547


ks and scooter alley have weird times, so id try these guys first

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 10:04 am
by noiseguy
Cool. I've been calling yards around here and can't find anything. As an example, talked to a yard in OH yesterday. Guy had an '88 Elite 50 motor, no carb or exhaust (but he was "throwing in" the starter.) No compression, $175. I'd much rather pay more for a crate engine, but all I can find locally for crate motors are 125/150cc 4-strokes.

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 11:01 am
by darat
wait are u goin to put a 125cc eng on the spree?

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 4:37 pm
by noiseguy
The 125cc Loncin aircooled's that I've found won't easily fit, but it sounds like you can get a Sym 50cc Dio knockoff from HI. This will fit, and would be a lot cooler than messing with the Spree plant; although I've still got some parts yet to try on that :D

Point is that guys want stupid money for questionable engines. I'd much rather deal with a Korean knockoff than building up some spent/monkeyed with Japanese engine.

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 5:01 pm
by bitteraspects
taiwan, but yeah, good call. not o mention, ive sen hopped up 72cc dios SPANK 150+ scooters

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 9:10 pm
by hrnytrtlsgsxr
bitteraspects wrote:taiwan, but yeah, good call. not o mention, ive sen hopped up 72cc dios SPANK 150+ scooters
i get they were four stroke :D

Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 12:38 am
by bitteraspects
hrnytrtlsgsxr wrote:
bitteraspects wrote:taiwan, but yeah, good call. not o mention, ive sen hopped up 72cc dios SPANK 150+ scooters
i bet they were four stroke :D
indeed