A Professional opinion ;)
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A Professional opinion ;)
So whatya think? It's out of my new build and I think I'm running rich and could definitely kick the mix down to 40:1, right now it's at 32:1.
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- Wheelman-111
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Re: A Professional opinion ;)
Greetings:
Why do you think it's running rich? That's a pretty good plug color. Temp gauge would confirm...
Why do you think it's running rich? That's a pretty good plug color. Temp gauge would confirm...
Wheelman-111
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Flash 9: 2001 Elite SR Contesta 72 ZX Tran, 9:1 Gears, Stock Airbox/Carb/Pipe 58.8 MPH
Punkin: 2010 Vespa/Malossi S78, 61MPH
Re: A Professional opinion ;)
you need to tighten the plug more. when you get oil on the threads like that, it means the plug is not tight enough. i think thats why you think the oil mixture is to much.the plug color is good and as for the oil mix,32to1 is perfect unless you have the oil injector hooked up too.
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Re: A Professional opinion ;)
The plug was in there good, I oil my threads and went a little overboard with this one plus it's an old plug.
No injector. Just 32:1 chainsaw oil . . . . I know I know. I gotta get a "pre-mix" style container to meter out the oil. Does anyone make those? Kinda like a sta-bil container.
I checked the temps with an infrared gun after 20 seconds @ wot. Got 276 by the head and 470 on the exhaust bung. I'd like to get one of those TTO trail tech Temp gauges. I'm gonna order one tomorrow at work.
Thanks for the consultation guys!
No injector. Just 32:1 chainsaw oil . . . . I know I know. I gotta get a "pre-mix" style container to meter out the oil. Does anyone make those? Kinda like a sta-bil container.
I checked the temps with an infrared gun after 20 seconds @ wot. Got 276 by the head and 470 on the exhaust bung. I'd like to get one of those TTO trail tech Temp gauges. I'm gonna order one tomorrow at work.
Thanks for the consultation guys!
06' Genuine Rattler 50 -Minarelli clone- 70cc pre-mix 32:1, Prima pipe, vari, clutch/center springs
84' Aero 50 "Blue Demon" Vari, airbox/muffler mod, jetted
83' Aero 50 "Red Demon" Stock
84' Aero 50 "Blue Demon" Vari, airbox/muffler mod, jetted
83' Aero 50 "Red Demon" Stock
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Greetings:
276 right after a WOT run sounds safe enough, depending on what you mean by "by the head. It might be a bit rich, which sure is safer than a bit lean... How's the power and how clean does it run through midrange transitions?
276 right after a WOT run sounds safe enough, depending on what you mean by "by the head. It might be a bit rich, which sure is safer than a bit lean... How's the power and how clean does it run through midrange transitions?
Wheelman-111
Most of my money is spent on scooterparts. The rest is just wasted.
"ISO": '03 Vespa ET4 Malossi187 74MPH
Flash 9: 2001 Elite SR Contesta 72 ZX Tran, 9:1 Gears, Stock Airbox/Carb/Pipe 58.8 MPH
Punkin: 2010 Vespa/Malossi S78, 61MPH
Most of my money is spent on scooterparts. The rest is just wasted.
"ISO": '03 Vespa ET4 Malossi187 74MPH
Flash 9: 2001 Elite SR Contesta 72 ZX Tran, 9:1 Gears, Stock Airbox/Carb/Pipe 58.8 MPH
Punkin: 2010 Vespa/Malossi S78, 61MPH
Re: A Professional opinion ;)
just go to a motorcycle store and a buy a ratio rite cup and get yourself some GOOD premix synthetic oil. dont run that chainsaw crap before it cake s up your rings,exhaust,piston and head.Johnny5 wrote:The plug was in there good, I oil my threads and went a little overboard with this one plus it's an old plug.
No injector. Just 32:1 chainsaw oil . . . . I know I know. I gotta get a "pre-mix" style container to meter out the oil. Does anyone make those? Kinda like a sta-bil container.
I checked the temps with an infrared gun after 20 seconds @ wot. Got 276 by the head and 470 on the exhaust bung. I'd like to get one of those TTO trail tech Temp gauges. I'm gonna order one tomorrow at work.
Thanks for the consultation guys!
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Re: A Professional opinion ;)
Listen to baka about the chainsaw oil. FYI the chainsaw oil is why the plug, other than the electrode, is oily looking. It is doing the same thing to your piston and rings. The mixture is excellent BTW. Without good oil you can not tell if you are over oiling the engine, in fact I doubt you are at 32 to 1.
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Actually, she 4-stokes quite a bit before it goes on the pipe. Even after wot when it's quite warm it'll do it.
Synthetic oil? I'll get me some. Fyi, I'm using Stihl "High Performance" oil. It's not their synthetic blended oil, but it runs well in my saws and I've used it for years. It's convenient too having them packaged in those little sealed containers.
Synthetic oil? I'll get me some. Fyi, I'm using Stihl "High Performance" oil. It's not their synthetic blended oil, but it runs well in my saws and I've used it for years. It's convenient too having them packaged in those little sealed containers.
06' Genuine Rattler 50 -Minarelli clone- 70cc pre-mix 32:1, Prima pipe, vari, clutch/center springs
84' Aero 50 "Blue Demon" Vari, airbox/muffler mod, jetted
83' Aero 50 "Red Demon" Stock
84' Aero 50 "Blue Demon" Vari, airbox/muffler mod, jetted
83' Aero 50 "Red Demon" Stock
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Re: A Professional opinion ;)
Greetings:
Exactly what is your "new build"? You can post the Vital Statistics in your Signature using User Profile.
Exactly what is your "new build"? You can post the Vital Statistics in your Signature using User Profile.
Wheelman-111
Most of my money is spent on scooterparts. The rest is just wasted.
"ISO": '03 Vespa ET4 Malossi187 74MPH
Flash 9: 2001 Elite SR Contesta 72 ZX Tran, 9:1 Gears, Stock Airbox/Carb/Pipe 58.8 MPH
Punkin: 2010 Vespa/Malossi S78, 61MPH
Most of my money is spent on scooterparts. The rest is just wasted.
"ISO": '03 Vespa ET4 Malossi187 74MPH
Flash 9: 2001 Elite SR Contesta 72 ZX Tran, 9:1 Gears, Stock Airbox/Carb/Pipe 58.8 MPH
Punkin: 2010 Vespa/Malossi S78, 61MPH
Re: A Professional opinion ;)
User profile updated! This forum stuff gets sweeter everyday.
It's for my Rattler so I just wanted to know what you guys thought about the plug. I don't want to post my Rattler in the Honda section
It's for my Rattler so I just wanted to know what you guys thought about the plug. I don't want to post my Rattler in the Honda section
06' Genuine Rattler 50 -Minarelli clone- 70cc pre-mix 32:1, Prima pipe, vari, clutch/center springs
84' Aero 50 "Blue Demon" Vari, airbox/muffler mod, jetted
83' Aero 50 "Red Demon" Stock
84' Aero 50 "Blue Demon" Vari, airbox/muffler mod, jetted
83' Aero 50 "Red Demon" Stock
Re: A Professional opinion ;)
i will give it to the local boy this time....
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maddog wrote:i will give it to the local boy this time....
Good Choice! Considering he asked for a professional opinion.
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I got one with the 14mm plug end, exteneded wiring and the whole sha-bang.. whatta ya gimme for it? make me an offer. the guys on here can vouch for me. Its collectin dust at the moment..rather help a fellow scooter than let it sit dormant. lolJohnny5 wrote:The plug was in there good, I oil my threads and went a little overboard with this one plus it's an old plug.
No injector. Just 32:1 chainsaw oil . . . . I know I know. I gotta get a "pre-mix" style container to meter out the oil. Does anyone make those? Kinda like a sta-bil container.
I checked the temps with an infrared gun after 20 seconds @ wot. Got 276 by the head and 470 on the exhaust bung. I'd like to get one of those TTO trail tech Temp gauges. I'm gonna order one tomorrow at work.
Thanks for the consultation guys!
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Re: A Professional opinion ;)
Shoot Zac. I just ordered one. Did you request the longer leads? I should probably get those. Thanks anyway bud.
"A professional opinion?" * yeah! I joined the Modern Buddy forum to converse with the Genuine/PGO riders and I'll tell ya they don't build em' like you guys!
There are some sick builds on this forum and plenty of guys with time and knowledge under their belts. Can't thank you guys enough for help and inspiration.
Peace, Jon
"A professional opinion?" * yeah! I joined the Modern Buddy forum to converse with the Genuine/PGO riders and I'll tell ya they don't build em' like you guys!
There are some sick builds on this forum and plenty of guys with time and knowledge under their belts. Can't thank you guys enough for help and inspiration.
Peace, Jon
06' Genuine Rattler 50 -Minarelli clone- 70cc pre-mix 32:1, Prima pipe, vari, clutch/center springs
84' Aero 50 "Blue Demon" Vari, airbox/muffler mod, jetted
83' Aero 50 "Red Demon" Stock
84' Aero 50 "Blue Demon" Vari, airbox/muffler mod, jetted
83' Aero 50 "Red Demon" Stock
Re: A Professional opinion ;)
Hey jon what cylinder are you running on there? That prima pipe revs pretty good in the lower to middle 9k range so yes use good synthetic oil for you premix.
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87 elite 50 s with 86cc watercooled mini stroke
87 elite 50 race bike mhr 72cc
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Thanks to my sponsors
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90 honda dio sp 72cc
87 elite 50 s with 86cc watercooled mini stroke
87 elite 50 race bike mhr 72cc
91 yamaha tzr 250r