homemade 2 stroke pipes
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homemade 2 stroke pipes
anyone have any tips on modifting a pipe to work for the dio? like buying some pipe and cuting and welding it to fit? would it be better to use a close as i could pipe as for as cc's go? like get a 70cc for a 70cc bore? i was thinking something like this
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Re: homemade 2 stroke pipes
Greetings:
EliteDio concocted such a pipe for his Dio-fitted Elite "E" and enjoyed good performance. Your're right that the lengths and tapers and diameters matter a lot for optimal performance.
While there is great satisfaction in Doing It Yourself, there is no shortage of affordable ready-made options. The Phongeer Long (PG Long) is about $150 at VT Cycles and all the engineering has been done for you if you're running a 72cc-90cc kit. Many cheaper options can be found on eBay and at JiangWayne in BC Canada.
EliteDio concocted such a pipe for his Dio-fitted Elite "E" and enjoyed good performance. Your're right that the lengths and tapers and diameters matter a lot for optimal performance.
While there is great satisfaction in Doing It Yourself, there is no shortage of affordable ready-made options. The Phongeer Long (PG Long) is about $150 at VT Cycles and all the engineering has been done for you if you're running a 72cc-90cc kit. Many cheaper options can be found on eBay and at JiangWayne in BC Canada.
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Re: homemade 2 stroke pipes
yeah i seen that thread, i just think it would be neat to make it my self lolWheelman-111 wrote:Greetings:
EliteDio concocted such a pipe for his Dio-fitted Elite "E" and enjoyed good performance. Your're right that the lengths and tapers and diameters matter a lot for optimal performance.
While there is great satisfaction in Doing It Yourself, there is no shortage of affordable ready-made options. The Phongeer Long (PG Long) is about $150 at VT Cycles and all the engineering has been done for you if you're running a 72cc-90cc kit. Many cheaper options can be found on eBay and at JiangWayne in BC Canada.
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Re: homemade 2 stroke pipes
That pipe would be too much for a 70 kit. It is designed to flow higher RPMs and almost double the displacement.
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Yeah that's what i was saying about modifying a pipe with a close to the same boreeliteguy50 wrote:That pipe would be too much for a 70 kit. It is designed to flow higher RPMs and almost double the displacement.
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Re: homemade 2 stroke pipes
Yes, match the bore (displacement) and RPM range for power band. The porting and the pipe must work together for max performance.xxjareebxx wrote:Yeah that's what i was saying about modifying a pipe with a close to the same boreeliteguy50 wrote:That pipe would be too much for a 70 kit. It is designed to flow higher RPMs and almost double the displacement.
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okay thats what i was thinking to, i know its more than just that, cuz you have to know how the pipe is gona expand and stuffeliteguy50 wrote:Yes, match the bore (displacement) and RPM range for power band. The porting and the pipe must work together for max performance.xxjareebxx wrote:Yeah that's what i was saying about modifying a pipe with a close to the same boreeliteguy50 wrote:That pipe would be too much for a 70 kit. It is designed to flow higher RPMs and almost double the displacement.
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Re: homemade 2 stroke pipes
There are several reference books out there on building pipes. Gordon Jennings is the first on to come to mind.
http://www.vintagesleds.com/library/man ... ndbook.pdf
http://www.vintagesleds.com/library/man ... ndbook.pdf
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Re: homemade 2 stroke pipes
For the time and money you'll have into building your own (and most likely looking rather crappy) you will be far better off to just buy a ready made pipe. They can be found for less than $100 in good used condition.
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Re: homemade 2 stroke pipes
Yeah Ik that but its just more of away to mess around a lil bitwiguy05 wrote:For the time and money you'll have into building your own (and most likely looking rather crappy) you will be far better off to just buy a ready made pipe. They can be found for less than $100 in good used condition.
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Re: homemade 2 stroke pipes
start with a pipe that has a detachable head pipe and make your own easiest way to do it if i can find a link to the pipe i will post it
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Re: homemade 2 stroke pipes
Not if you are looking toxxjareebxx wrote:okay thats what i was thinking to, i know its more than just that, cuz you have to know how the pipe is gona expand and stuff
If you are building a pipe instead of modifying a pipe, then there are calculations to be made. The math isn't as hard as it is built up to be.xxjareebxx wrote:anyone have any tips on modifting a pipe to work for the dio? like buying some pipe and cuting and welding it to fit? ...
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Re: homemade 2 stroke pipes
if you think that you can build a better pipe than polini or malossi which are in direct competion with all there parts, go for it
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Re: homemade 2 stroke pipes
Greetings:
It's not always a question of building a better pipe. It's about Doing It Yourself, and getting pretty good results. There's merit in that too.
It's not always a question of building a better pipe. It's about Doing It Yourself, and getting pretty good results. There's merit in that too.
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Most of my money is spent on scooterparts. The rest is just wasted.
"ISO": '03 Vespa ET4 Malossi187 74MPH
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Re: homemade 2 stroke pipes
yeah i just like building stuff and working with metalWheelman-111 wrote:Greetings:
It's not always a question of building a better pipe. It's about Doing It Yourself, and getting pretty good results. There's merit in that too.
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