List of engine combos

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List of engine combos

Post by Chicago Ben »

Can we start a master list here of upgrades and what jets you are running please?

Please list

1) What engine (AFxx....etc)
2) What size bore
3) What size carb
4) What exhaust
5) What kind/type air filter
6) Supporting mods
7) What fuel (premix or regular, if premix what weight)
8) Current pilot jet, current main jet
9) World location and approx altitude
10) Current ambient temps
11) Idle and WOT engine temps (if you have a guage)
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1995 SA50P
pop pulley
50mm Ruima
8.44:1 gears
PG Typhoon
1500k spring
1000k Polini triples
M Keli clutch
28mm Keihin PWK
OKO Polished intake
uni filter
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Re: List of engine combos

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Let's edit number 2 to model and size please. Come on let's get the ball rolling here. After all, this is supposed to be a community of common interest backed with knowledge...
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1995 SA50P
pop pulley
50mm Ruima
8.44:1 gears
PG Typhoon
1500k spring
1000k Polini triples
M Keli clutch
28mm Keihin PWK
OKO Polished intake
uni filter
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i new know one wood step up..
the stock answer is find it on here and ive spent a lot of time looking and reading..
cant find what i need like what size jet i need to run the stock carb for my se50 with out the stock air filter..
i no its here but you have to read allot and hope its in the middle of a post somewhere..
and now that ive jump on this post ill bet i get less help from some of these guys on here..
it all most like its a trad secret they have ..
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Re: List of engine combos

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It is a bit difficult to pin point jetting with all the different combinations of parts that people use. Like me for instance I am using a kymco zx exhaust and I havent seen anyone on this forum with one. That right there makes my jetting different. If you look on ebay they sell sets of tuning jets for slow and main for this reason. Unless you do the exact same build as someone else then you can sorta match the jetting unless you live in an extreme climate.
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21mm OKO 42/100 32:1 45mph kymco zx exhaust
1994 Elite S 17.5mm Arreche, Daytona reeds, SEF ramp, pump plugged :D
1987 Elite SE50 af16 swapped
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Well, here's mine;

1) Af16e
2) 47mm Malossi cast iron bore, custom ported
3) 24mm oKo / ct chrome w/ 4 petal reeds
4) 30mm yms v8
5) UNI pod filter
6) 44.4mm teflon-stuffed mini-stroke Ruima crank 9:1 secondary gears
7) 32:1 premix premium w/ amsoil dominator full synthetic race oil
8 ) ...errr, 45/128 I think...
9) Northern Michigan, 620ft above sea level
10) 40-80 degrees
11) ... No guage right now, but it's never given me problems despite riding at WOT through an entire tank of gas regularly...
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Post by lilredspree »

1) AF18E
2) Polini Corsa
3) 24mm OKO
4) 26mm Jiangwayne expansion chamber... http://www.jiangwayne.com/scooter/p_i.php?i=61
5) K&N
6) CT intake, 8.4 gears, keli vari....
7) Premium pump gas w/32:1 premix
8) 48/120
9) Issaquah, WA 200-800 feet (live up a big ol hill)
10) 55/65 degrees
11) Idle it'll stay down under 200. WOT is 305 or so. Comin up my steep hill it'll hit 325-335.
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1) AF18e
2) 47mm Malossi
3) 28mm Oko
4) Leo Vince ZX
5) Uni pod filter
6) CT intake, Gears, Kevlar belt, Clutch
7) Premium premix 32:1 Repsol 2t competition
8 ) 39 & 130 I think.
9) Vancouver Island 30ft above sea level
10) 40 - 80 degrees
11) Not sure yet
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1. AF16
2. polini corsa
3. 24mm or 28mm
4. pg long
5. uni
6. ct, 7 to1,
7. premium premix, 2.5 oz castor 927 to 1 gallon
8. 24mm 48p/125m or 28mm 55p/145m
9. tropics, sea level
10. 80s
11. idle under 200, wot 330
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1) AF16E
2) Stock 50cc top end & block
3) Stock carb w/ 100 main jet
4) Gutted Stock
5) Breather Filter for valve covers on a v8, soon to be a UNI pod filter
6) Custom paint, vinyls, neons, and horn
7) Pump gas 93
Stock pilot jet, 100 main
9) Macomb, MI 48044
10) Not a clue lol
11) ^^^^^^^
'00 Honda Elite S.....................'06 Yamaha Zuma
-80cc Taiwanese BBK...............-Taiwan pwr pkg
-Malossi Vari
-6.9:1 Primary gears
-High Energy Ignition Coil
-Carbon Fiber Reeds
-Chrome CT Mani
-28mm OKO Carb
-Uni Pod Filter
-PG Long pipe
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jlynn433 wrote:1) AF16E
2) Stock 50cc top end & block
3) Stock carb w/ 100 main jet
4) Gutted Stock
5) Breather Filter for valve covers on a v8, soon to be a UNI pod filter
6) Custom paint, vinyls, neons, and horn
7) Pump gas 93
Stock pilot jet, 100 main
9) Macomb, MI 48044
10) Not a clue lol
11) ^^^^^^^
The 100 main jet is way to big, killing any performance gain from being too rich.

The 93 octane is just a waste of money. The stock compression only needs 87. Also the 93 octane has no more energy per gallon than the 87. All the higher octane does is prevent pre-ignition (ping and melted pistons) with higher compression, 10 to 1 or more.
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Re: List of engine combos

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Bear45-70 wrote:
jlynn433 wrote:1) AF16E
2) Stock 50cc top end & block
3) Stock carb w/ 100 main jet
4) Gutted Stock
5) Breather Filter for valve covers on a v8, soon to be a UNI pod filter
6) Custom paint, vinyls, neons, and horn
7) Pump gas 93
Stock pilot jet, 100 main
9) Macomb, MI 48044
10) Not a clue lol
11) ^^^^^^^
The 100 main jet is way to big, killing any performance gain from being too rich.

The 93 octane is just a waste of money. The stock compression only needs 87. Also the 93 octane has no more energy per gallon than the 87. All the higher octane does is prevent pre-ignition (ping and melted pistons) with higher compression, 10 to 1 or more.
im jetting down from rich --> normal & im still in the process but im thinking more like a #90 tbh
'00 Honda Elite S.....................'06 Yamaha Zuma
-80cc Taiwanese BBK...............-Taiwan pwr pkg
-Malossi Vari
-6.9:1 Primary gears
-High Energy Ignition Coil
-Carbon Fiber Reeds
-Chrome CT Mani
-28mm OKO Carb
-Uni Pod Filter
-PG Long pipe
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1) AF18E Dio
2) 50mm Ruima BBK (~90cc)
3) Keihin 18mm
4) V8
5) stock air filter
6) Variator, stock push spring, 2500rpm clutch, Athena gear set
7) any ethanol-free fuel or av-gas
8) 95 jet
9) Hilo, HI - sea level
10) 75F
11) CHT unknown
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JJ Joseph wrote:1) AF18E Dio
2) 50mm Ruima BBK (~90cc)
3) Keihin 18mm
4) V8
5) stock air filter
6) Variator, stock push spring, 2500rpm clutch, Athena gear set
7) any ethanol-free fuel or av-gas
8) 95 jet
9) Hilo, HI - sea level
10) 75F
11) CHT unknown
This would be 82cc not 90cc :urban:
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Re: List of engine combos

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Bump. Anybody else care to share their setup? Thanks to everyone who contributed so far
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1995 SA50P
pop pulley
50mm Ruima
8.44:1 gears
PG Typhoon
1500k spring
1000k Polini triples
M Keli clutch
28mm Keihin PWK
OKO Polished intake
uni filter
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okie dokie. I'll participate. :hi:
My stuff is boring. :roll:
yes, i like vanilla ice cream. :thumbwink:
oops. got sidetracked again. :shock:

1) AF05 (unknown year)
2) Unknown bore size/brand (I forgot & the dude I bought it from I can't find any longer. He closed his shop.)
3) Stock Honda Elite S carb
4) SEF Black
5) Stock Honda Elite S airbox
6) Ported
7) Premix, varies 32:1 thru 40:1. (I've been using premium 93? but on last fill, I am trying the middle grade fuel 89).
8 ) I forgot. I'll share the next time I have a look in my carb.
9) USA, 50th state, Honolulu, altitude varies from zero to 1,280 (mostly 0 to 456?)
10) Unavailable at this time (will update the answers to 9 & 10 after I receive & install temp gauge)

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