Household Items Dream Bike

Does your Spree/Elite already run great, and you're trying to make it quicker/faster? Need a monster motor swap? Discuss your ideas here.

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Household Items Dream Bike

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What are some things you guys have done with pretty much things you find around the garage, or really cheap stuff to make ur bike faster/better looking? i dont want to spend a bunch of money, but i want to get over my 35 mph. i have a fully derestricted sa50p with a 105 main jet, breather filter and derestricted stock exhaust. give me some ideas guys :thumbsup:
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-High Energy Ignition Coil
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you should buy a var. for it... i know you don't wanna spend the money but that is well worth it no matter what you do....
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jlynn433 wrote:What are some things you guys have done with pretty much things you find around the garage, or really cheap stuff to make ur bike faster/better looking? i dont want to spend a bunch of money, but i want to get over my 35 mph. i have a fully derestricted sa50p with a 105 main jet, breather filter and derestricted stock exhaust. give me some ideas guys :thumbsup:
I used ruckus variators out of my parts box to make a couple go faster. Punch the second hole in the airbox but that wont help you. Installed gears and a met wheel.
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my scooter only goes about 37-ish right now, but it gets there quick. ive heard of people getting up to 65 with the stock engine. i want to be that guy, so the variator will help me a great deal on top speed?
'00 Honda Elite S.....................'06 Yamaha Zuma
-80cc Taiwanese BBK...............-Taiwan pwr pkg
-Malossi Vari
-6.9:1 Primary gears
-High Energy Ignition Coil
-Carbon Fiber Reeds
-Chrome CT Mani
-28mm OKO Carb
-Uni Pod Filter
-PG Long pipe
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ive heard of people getting up to 65 with the stock engine BS
you need to re gear the thing but with out the hp you will never get that with out a bbk and carb ....
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se50 crank...

SpreJunk 87elite in a spree body
ruckus variator , 3.5 tire , 1500 drive face spring , a 64 bbk ,
8 gram rollers, stock carb , after market air filter and 105 jet
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when it says 12.12 on that chart........ what do i have to do to get that? 120 on a scooter is rediculous
'00 Honda Elite S.....................'06 Yamaha Zuma
-80cc Taiwanese BBK...............-Taiwan pwr pkg
-Malossi Vari
-6.9:1 Primary gears
-High Energy Ignition Coil
-Carbon Fiber Reeds
-Chrome CT Mani
-28mm OKO Carb
-Uni Pod Filter
-PG Long pipe
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i mean 6.3........ the fastest one on the chart
'00 Honda Elite S.....................'06 Yamaha Zuma
-80cc Taiwanese BBK...............-Taiwan pwr pkg
-Malossi Vari
-6.9:1 Primary gears
-High Energy Ignition Coil
-Carbon Fiber Reeds
-Chrome CT Mani
-28mm OKO Carb
-Uni Pod Filter
-PG Long pipe
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to get the 6.3s to work in a 50cc you would have to push it down a hill to get up to speed before it would even have the enertia to pull :P You could go with the 9.1 gearing to gain a few mphs :D
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Mystic wrote:to get the 6.3s to work in a 50cc you would have to push it down a hill to get up to speed before it would even have the enertia to pull :P You could go with the 9.1 gearing to gain a few mphs :D
Would the 6.3 work with a polini corsa bbk?
'00 Honda Elite S.....................'06 Yamaha Zuma
-80cc Taiwanese BBK...............-Taiwan pwr pkg
-Malossi Vari
-6.9:1 Primary gears
-High Energy Ignition Coil
-Carbon Fiber Reeds
-Chrome CT Mani
-28mm OKO Carb
-Uni Pod Filter
-PG Long pipe
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jlynn433 wrote:
Mystic wrote:to get the 6.3s to work in a 50cc you would have to push it down a hill to get up to speed before it would even have the enertia to pull :P You could go with the 9.1 gearing to gain a few mphs :D
Would the 6.3 work with a polini corsa bbk?

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jlynn433 wrote:
Mystic wrote:to get the 6.3s to work in a 50cc you would have to push it down a hill to get up to speed before it would even have the enertia to pull :P You could go with the 9.1 gearing to gain a few mphs :D
Would the 6.3 work with a polini corsa bbk?

Do a SEARCH dude.

You sound like a complete Image.
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That chart assumes you have the horsepower to push the scooter that fast with those gear. A 50 cc motor is never gonna have that much horsepower without giving up all reliability and normal acceleration (it's gonna be a dog off the line and will break all the time).

You will need something like this;

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bear what is that ???
thanks
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se50 crank...

SpreJunk 87elite in a spree body
ruckus variator , 3.5 tire , 1500 drive face spring , a 64 bbk ,
8 gram rollers, stock carb , after market air filter and 105 jet
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swimmingfree wrote:bear what is that ???
thanks
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I believe that is a Turbo charged aprilia SR50, even in stock form they are fast from the factory.
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Greetings:

First, 105 Main is way big for 50cc and stock pipe. It's the size I ran with a 65 Cortessa and LeoVince pipe with K&N filter. Look for 88-90 to match yours a lot better.
Rich will run cooler, but power suffers and carbon build-up will develop quickly.
If you keep stock bore, 9.1:1 gears can achieve 49 MPH with no other mods than a variator. Flash 3 did it with an SR pipe and no airbox punch+out.
That was GPS, son, not some wildly optimistic Honda estimate.

8.4:1 gears work well at 72ccs. I have 7.58s to allow highway speeds, but they stifle stoplight take-off pretty bad, even running 10K RPM off the variator.
6.3s need a lot more torque than a Corsa, let alone a 50cc stock bore can generate. Theoretical speed won't translate to reality without a steep downhill or a gale from astern.
Gear for the power you have for real Street rideability.
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