Spree upgrade idea

spartan-spree · Post by **spartan-spree** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 8:36 am

My spree is all stock besides some knobby tires I added during winter and decided to keep it on cause it looks bad-*

well heres my problem. Im tired of cheap, horribly built chinesse scooters passing me on campus. So I'm a very mechanical guy and fixed up a few sprees and sold to my friends but want to know how to upgrade my spree to get it to 35-40 mph. I want to know what's the best bang for the buck upgrade.

Carnie · Post by **Carnie** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 2:33 pm

Best bang for buck would be to swap in a new engine that allows for more performance upgrades, such as the variated af05e off of 87-93 elites (excluding 88 & 89 sb50p) or the more desirable (and more expensive) route of the af16e engine, which offers the widest range of AM parts making the possibilities practically endless. The variated af05e will run you about $175-230 stock and the af16 usually between $275-350ish depending on what it has in it. The af05 will allow you to achieve a solid 50-55mph with some reports of nearly 60mph but probably about 35-38mph while stock. The af16 (unrestricted) can reach 37-41mph stock and when modded, has been known to go scary fast for a scoot this size (75+mph)

spartan-spree · Post by **spartan-spree** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 8:39 pm

Where could I find a motor. not to many people are selling on here. what about a sa50 motor what would that do speed wise for spree

odinxxix · Post by **odinxxix** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 9:55 pm

the sa50 with mild mods will reach will reach speeds of 42-48. some reported speeds of 50mph from mild mods. heavy mods will garner 60+

Carnie · Post by **Carnie** » Fri Mar 16, 2012 3:58 am

It also depends on which sa50. If it is a 94-01 (af16e) there will be more options and more speed, If it is the 88-93 (variated af05e) it will be on a lesser scale but still very tunable and able to beat your Chinese foes.

Carnie · Post by **Carnie** » Fri Mar 16, 2012 3:59 am

Scooter foes. Not Chinese people. They are great. Haha

Bear45-70 · Post by **Bear45-70** » Fri Mar 16, 2012 2:01 pm

Carnie wrote:Scooter foes. Not Chinese people. They are great. Haha

God, I hate the PC attitude!

eliteguy50 · Post by **eliteguy50** » Sat Mar 17, 2012 2:26 am

Bear45-70 wrote:
Carnie wrote:Scooter foes. Not Chinese people. They are great. Haha
God, I hate the PC attitude!

You got it wrong Bear, the Dell people are in India, it is the crappy bearing people who are in China.

Bear45-70 · Post by **Bear45-70** » Sat Mar 17, 2012 2:31 am

eliteguy50 wrote:
Bear45-70 wrote:
Carnie wrote:Scooter foes. Not Chinese people. They are great. Haha
God, I hate the PC attitude!
You got it wrong Bear, the Dell people are in India, it is the crappy bearing people who are in China.

Three things I have never done, Dell computers, Chinese bearings and being Politically Correct.

"PC is a doctrine fostered by a delusional illogical minority and promoted by a mainstream media which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end."

JJ Joseph · Post by **JJ Joseph** » Tue Apr 10, 2012 12:49 am

spartan-spree wrote:want to know how to upgrade my spree to get it to 35-40 mph

I hate to break the sad news, but it's way cheaper to sell your Spree and buy something with better fundamentals. The Spree doesn't have a modern CVT transmision like almost every other scooter on the planet. Some Sprees don't even have a kick-start. Like a car with a one-speed transmission, the Spree will always be a dog. Lots of people like Sprees for good reasons, but speed isn't one of the good reasons. Here's the ONLY reasons to own a Spree:
1. They're light, only about 80lbs, so you can pick up a Spree and take it with you in your car.
2. Sprees don't have a fuel pump.
3. Sprees are light, so you can carry one into your bedroom if you're lonely. Oh, I said that already.

kingkamehameha · Post by **kingkamehameha** » Tue Apr 10, 2012 5:30 am

JJ Joseph wrote:
spartan-spree wrote:want to know how to upgrade my spree to get it to 35-40 mph
I hate to break the sad news, but it's way cheaper to sell your Spree and buy something with better fundamentals. The Spree doesn't have a modern CVT transmision like almost every other scooter on the planet. Some Sprees don't even have a kick-start. Like a car with a one-speed transmission, the Spree will always be a dog. Lots of people like Sprees for good reasons, but speed isn't one of the good reasons. Here's the ONLY reasons to own a Spree:
1. They're light, only about 80lbs, so you can pick up a Spree and take it with you in your car.
2. Sprees don't have a fuel pump.
3. Sprees are light, so you can carry one into your bedroom if you're lonely. Oh, I said that already.

Jj have a look at my spree. It would blow your doors off

swimmingfree · Post by **swimmingfree** » Tue Apr 10, 2012 8:04 am

i have a se50 out of a 87 elite motor and it will do 40 + my the speedo and its stock ..
the hard part on doing a motor swap is making a motor mont and movein the shock as as well making a new stander for it .. so no its not a boult on and go ... here one you may want to read if you dont have welder handy... viewtopic.php?f=4&t=22752

kingkamehameha youi cood of posted a photo of yours

By freeswimming at 2012-04-01

JJ Joseph · Post by **JJ Joseph** » Tue Apr 10, 2012 4:56 pm

kingkamehameha wrote:Jj have a look at my spree. It would blow your doors off

I would if you'd shown a photo. But I'll bet it's not a Spree. If you changed the engine/trans, it's no longer a Spree for the purpose of this topic. It's a Spree with a Briggs & Stratton, or whatever. So let's see the photo so we can all have a kick at it

fastplastic · Post by **fastplastic** » Tue Apr 10, 2012 5:50 pm

doesnt any one know how to search king already posted a pic and it does look badass....

p.s. if you swap a Chevy motor in a mustang its still a mustang....

fastplastic · Post by **fastplastic** » Tue Apr 10, 2012 5:51 pm

swimmingfree wrote:i have a se50 out of a 87 elite motor and it will do 40 + my the speedo and its stock ..
the hard part on doing a motor swap is making a motor mont and movein the shock as as well making a new stander for it .. so no its not a boult on and go ... here one you may want to read if you dont have welder handy... viewtopic.php?f=4&t=22752

kingkamehameha youi cood of posted a photo of yours

By freeswimming at 2012-04-01

Swimming nice job on the spree not what i expected to see....

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