Michelin S1

[paulpauly7]

Just got myself a pair of these for my spreedio .Speed rating of 62mph .What do you guys think of these tyres? Hopefully i will get them fitted up today and do a bit of riding around to run them in .How many miles you think to run them in?

sorry if this is in the wrong place

[cruzingratiot]

I know this is a long answer
here are the tire manufacture answers to your question
but hopefully it will help you out and others on the board
with there brands of tires
Paul Jug

my first choice for my moped was michilin s1 they look like a good tire
but when I saw they make a Metzeler ME1
which I have had on my motorcycles I bought them instead


Michelin customer service answer

Thank you for your email. We appreciate the opportunity to serve you.

Concerning your question, Michelin has a mold release agent on all
motorcycle tires. This will cause the tire to be slippery in the first
few
miles, but that goes away after the tire is scrubbed in. This normally
occurs in the first 25-50 miles or so. Until then, the rider should use
caution in riding the tire at accelerated speeds. Michelin always
recommends
obeying the speed limits and using care whenever riding.

Dunlops customer service answer

Thank you for taking the time to contact us with your Dunlop motorcycle
tire questions. Dunlop Motorcycle
Tire does NOT use a "mold releasing
agent" during the production of our tires. When new tires are fitted,
they
should not be subjected to maximum power, abrupt lean-over or hard
cornering until a reasonable run-in distance of approximately 100 miles
has
been covered.
This will permit the rider to become accustomed to the
feel
of the new tires or tire combination, find the edge, and achieve
optimum
road grip for a range of speeds,
acceleration and handling use. Be
sure to
check and adjust inflation pressure to recommended levels after the
tire
cools for at least three (3) hours
following run-in. Remember, new
tires
will have a very different contact patch and lean-over edge. New
tires,

mixing a new tire with an used tire, and mixing tread pattern
combinations
require careful ride evaluations.


Bridgestones responce

Break-in Period
In order for your new tire(s) to provide optimum performance,
tires should be ridden very cautiously for the first 100 miles
in order for the tread surface to be ÔÇ£Scuffed-InÔÇØ and work properly.
Directly after new tires are mounted, sudden acceleration,
maximum braking and hard cornering must be avoided.
This will allow the rider to adjust to the ÔÇ£FeelÔÇØ and handling characteristics
of the new tire and for the new tire to be ÔÇ£Scuffed-InÔÇØ correctly in order to achieve optimum grip level.


Pirelli answer

Pirelli does not use mold release.
Tires are shiny because the general buying public demands that visually a tire look cool, smooth, shiny, and new
when they shop for tires in the rack at the dealer.
We rely on the smoothness of the mold to get this appearance and to help the tire let go from the mold during production.


I like to say tires are like new shoes, MX boots, or a leather jacket
as they need the proper break in time.
Regarding getting heat into tires this follows the same idea, only time and friction will put the heat in.

[paulpauly7]

nice thank you

[lowblueranger]

I liked the S1's on my old elite- but now I prefer the Pirelli sl26's for everyday riding they last longer. But the best performance tire I've found is the Dunlop TT92's or TT93's- they also look awesome.

[motormike]

I'm done with Pirelli SL26's...
The Dunlops are certainly the racer's choice, too much $$ for me.
Shinko has been giving better performance than SL26, and just as cheap or cheaper.
I have bought a second pair of Vee Rubber VRM 134 for my Aero 125.
Good grip, but not as long-wearing as I had hoped.
Speed rating pretty high @ "L" = 75 mph...
Best grip for the cheapest price i have tried.... ...YMMV
I can't bring myself to buy Kenda, Ching-Shen, and a couple others.
I should say this : The S-1 Michelin looks like a good tire, haven't tried them,
but the tread design is not too fancy.
I suspect the Vee Rubber VRM 134 holds better in the corner.

[Wheelman-111]

Greetings:

My rear SL 26 was looking a bit weather-checked last time I looked. Cruise's message caused me to look up Metzler - a brand I found to be pretty good on the H-D Sportster. Found a pair for $63 - free shipping - on Motorcycle Superstore and sprung for them. Thanks Cruz!

[maddog]

For everyday riding a medium compound tire works just fine, i am now testing Avon which is rated #1 for scooters and so far i am impressed...

[Wheelman-111]

Greetings:

The Metzlers arrived from MCSuperStore.com. Nice rubber, but dated 2612 on the sidewall. "New" rubber that's already 18 months old. OK for the price I guess, and beats weather-checked SL26. I'll have a pretty-new Michelin S1 3.50x10 for sale soon if anyone wants one. Beware of fitment issues astern, but works OK up front if you avoid hard turns on the brake with your 10-year-old riding double.

[Wheelman-111]

Greetings:

I got the Metzler installed astern using nothing but primitive Wheelman Rock-and-Stick tools and legendary Wheelman thumb strength. I lost my Gumption after getting the PG pipe issue fixed (See Performance Tech thread) and the rear wheel reinstalled. I'll tackle the front tire - and probably sell a pretty nice Michelin S-1 3.50 x 10 - next week sometime. I was proud of the fact that I was able to seat the beads (Tubeless Met rim) with a hand pump! Tire grips fine, even with the Factory mold slime still on.

[paulpauly7]

What psi do you recomend for the 90/90-10 michelin S1's?I have just installed my tyres by hand and tyre silicone

[Wheelman-111]

Greetings:

Sorry I'm not familiar with United Kingdom Tyres, which require Metric air measured in Fathoms per square cubit. Ha-ha, I kid, I Keed you! Here in the U. S. and A., I generally run the sidewall limit or around 34 PSI. I've never noticed a grip issue riding like an arthritic granny, and if I happen to be packin' Garmin-Girl, I've got a better shot at boasting a higher top speed through the Miracle of Low Rolling Resistance. If I weighed 7 Stones, I'd run the Factory specs for better grip, but it's not an issue at my size.

[paulpauly7]

thank you i was told to run at 25psi for a run in period then up to 35 psi.Just wanted to know what others were running

[ped]

Hi forum.
Any advice on a good tall tire that will fit the 94 elite?
I got a new duro 90-90 10 the shape is a little wide. and the Continental Zippy is a low profile tire.
I'm looking for a taller shape without going for the 3.50 -10 tire.
Something for street use.
thanks

[Wheelman-111]

Greetings:

In theory any tire's Nominal size - 90/90 x 10 for example - SHOULD result in the same Measured dimensions. In Practice, there's considerable variability. I've been pleased with the Metzlers I posted about in December. They seem a little taller than the Pirellis, but of course I've never measured to be sure. Beware 3.50s. They LOOK like they fit when you inspect clearance at a standstill, but there's enough centrifugal growth in tire height at higher speeds to rub the stand or the crankcase at the exhaust mounting lugs. My front brake cable has all the rubber rubbed off up there under the front fender from braking and turning while over-loaded. Stick with 90s.

[Dio89Elite]

If 90/90 is a little wide, you could try 3.0x10s, they're a wee bit thinner and taller. My nephew was running the 90/90's and ran into clearance problems (tire was rubbing into his shock). I gave him the same advice, and he now barely clears the shock.