Spree bbk issues.

Does your Spree/Elite already run great, and you're trying to make it quicker/faster? Need a monster motor swap? Discuss your ideas here.

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Re: Spree bbk issues.

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na i put it on right. ]

That parts diagrAM must be wrong

This one is in the manual and check mine out !

7 fins are on the right while sitting on scooter....so i installed corectly :thumbwink:
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Yeah, guys. the overhang is to be on the fan side to aid in cooling. Parts diagram is for parts....Honda service manual is gold. Its doubtful that the Service manual shows a picture with the head on backwards. But I must admit, I did chuckle a little bit when they referred to the Glove Box as a "Grove Box" on page 11-9.... :D
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Alright now that we got that crap outta the whey !

I was thinking i did it wrong....jeez
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Phew! You guys managed to raise my blood pressure for a moment there!! ;)
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Yea mines been going up this past week too. ;)
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Where are you guys buying your jets from? And which ones are you buying?
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I havent tried to source any oversize jets for the NQ50 carb. I only have the stock one and the one that came with the BBK.

Have bought a few recently for my Dio's keihin PB carb from a local supplier so might sound them out for some NQ50 jets

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I need a main jet kit for my Spree. Do any of the ones on SSS fit? I have an 87 now and want bigger.
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Just ask SSS.... I think Taz sells them
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The reason to mix 32:1 is to make sure there is enough lub. At 50cc there is enough, maybe. Read the stock pump is 50:1. That seems too little even for 50cc. Now, at 68cc there is
even less oil. Reconnecting the pump gives more oil. Perhaps averaging about 20:1. In the way back it was common to see 16:1. using SAE 30 oil. This leads to carbon fouled plugs
and excessive carbon build up in the combustion chamber. I use24: 1 to test run to be sure everything is lubed. then switch to 32:1 when everything seems fine.
Leave the pump disconnected and use the 32:1.
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jakubman1 wrote:Just ask SSS.... I think Taz sells them
Larger main jets for spree carb are available from Honda all.you do is change the last couple digits of the part number to make the jet size you want. So the 68 jet part number will end in 68, change to a 72 and that's the number for the 72 jet. Simple
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doug9694 wrote:The reason to mix 32:1 is to make sure there is enough lub. At 50cc there is enough, maybe. Read the stock pump is 50:1. That seems too little even for 50cc. Now, at 68cc there is
even less oil. Reconnecting the pump gives more oil. Perhaps averaging about 20:1. In the way back it was common to see 16:1. using SAE 30 oil. This leads to carbon fouled plugs
and excessive carbon build up in the combustion chamber. I use24: 1 to test run to be sure everything is lubed. then switch to 32:1 when everything seems fine.
Leave the pump disconnected and use the 32:1.
The stock pump ratio is Believed to be 70:1. Lots of machines from the 80s ran really slim ratios and some ran rich oil ratios. The 84 honda odesesy ran 20:1 but the Yamaha G1 golf cart runs 150:1 injection for 84.
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Re: Spree bbk issues.

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You are having issues because your carb is too small. Figure out how to attach a 22 mm carb
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stevespree7 wrote:You are having issues because your carb is too small. Figure out how to attach a 22 mm carb
It's the intake that causes the issues, though a better carb helps too.
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HOW DO I GET NE PISTON RINGS FOR THIS KIT? I DESPERATELY NEED!!! :-) I'D EVEN GET A NEW PISTON AND RING KIT. I HAVE 3 JUGS. 2 GOOD PISTONS ... ONE SET OF RINGS. I'VE GOTTEN 3K... BUT GET A BIG CARB AND ADAPTER/INTAKE
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