Honda Spree and Elite 50 Forums

So I’ve been reading around forums about variatior swaps on sprees. I’ve noticed that the main issue is space (case cover, bendix and kickstart) but the thing is my spree doesn’t have a case cover bendix or kicker, I just drill start it. So what I’m asking is that since I don’t have any of the clearence issues to worry about will a af16 or other kind of variator bolt up? Is there anything I’m forgetting?
Thanks

Greetings:

I suppose if you start it with a drill and don't run a cover, it is possible to bolt up any kind of transmission you can. However, the length of crankshaft and splines protruding from the case will limit your options to a pretty narrow belt and rear pulley, perhaps adapted from something in the Moped world. Honda itself did produce a variated version of the Spree in the ultra-rare, and non-US market model called the Pal. Few people have seen this scooter, and I don't recall anyone calling out the specs or details of the design.

I believe the honda pal is actually the same basic scooter as the SB50 Elite “E” which was made in years 1988-1990 and had the spree “AF05” motor

Greetings:

Bones is correct, as usual. But Honda must have specified a different crankshaft to allow room for a sliding pulley, pulley boss, etc., or I don't imagine the CVT would have much "range" from Start position to Top Speed.

The Pal used the Elite E crankshaft. The Pal2 had a longer crankshaft and corresponding belt cover to accommodate the variator. The SE50 with the variated full size AF05E engine produced more power and was quicker than the variated Pal2.

Just swap in an AF16