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Starter DD50

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 2:29 pm
by solid808
question? I can kick start my dd50 with no problems, but when I electric start it, it only works sometimes... It works fine whenever it wants to. Starter motor works perfectly fine its just that gear by the pulley sounds like its not engaging it sounds like. what can I do to fix this?

Re: starter

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 4:10 pm
by Rip_City_Spree
I don't know anything bout your dd50 but on my elite I had to problem and took my variator assembly off and reinstalled think it wasn't lining up properly. Do you have a bendix gear? Check that but hard for things to break in there. Was told sometimes the belt isn't all the way on and throws everything out of whack

starter question

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 12:49 am
by solid808
is there a trick to making the bendix gear engage? I can hear my starter but I think that gear is not engaging to start my motor.. I know its in the correct spot

Re: starter

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 12:53 am
by solid808
I pulled out the bendix gear looked at it.. I think it looks fine.. put it in and just my starter spins and that bendix gear doesnt even contact the starter... How do I fix this..

Re: starter

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 8:32 am
by Wheelman-111
Greetings:

Was the belt drive modified? Check the belt width; 15.5mm is stock. 18 or so means someone installed a ZX drive. To do that, the outer sheave of the front pulley is moved outboard by a couple of mm. A different Bendix may be available, but my solution was a shim washer installed on the bearing surface - that little pin that juts out on the engine side. This moves the Bendix assembly outboard a mm or two - just enough for the big teeth on the Bendix to engage with those on the outer sheave. If either sets of teeth are "rounded off" from incomplete contact, the Bendix won't engage to spin the crank. Replacement of both may be necessary, but try shimming it out first.

Re: starter

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 1:31 am
by solid808
Wheelman-111 wrote:Greetings:

Was the belt drive modified? Check the belt width; 15.5mm is stock. 18 or so means someone installed a ZX drive. To do that, the outer sheave of the front pulley is moved outboard by a couple of mm. A different Bendix may be available, but my solution was a shim washer installed on the bearing surface - that little pin that juts out on the engine side. This moves the Bendix assembly outboard a mm or two - just enough for the big teeth on the Bendix to engage with those on the outer sheave. If either sets of teeth are "rounded off" from incomplete contact, the Bendix won't engage to spin the crank. Replacement of both may be necessary, but try shimming it out first.
thanks I think thats my problem.. where would you get those flat shims from? I know you cant just buy washers and put it in lol

Re: Starter DD50

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 8:22 pm
by Wheelman-111
Greetings:

Believe it or not, between Lowe's and Home Depot's stash of 17mm washers, I found a pretty good collection of shim washer candidates. You want the outer diameter to match that of the pulley boss if possible. VT Cycles at one time carried really thin ones for stacking perfection.

Re: Starter DD50

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2015 4:25 am
by solid808
Wheelman-111 wrote:Greetings:

Believe it or not, between Lowe's and Home Depot's stash of 17mm washers, I found a pretty good collection of shim washer candidates. You want the outer diameter to match that of the pulley boss if possible. VT Cycles at one time carried really thin ones for stacking perfection.
Ok I put the washer on and now feels like my starter cant spin my bendix.... do you think I need a stronger starter?

Re: Starter DD50

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2015 9:51 pm
by Wheelman-111
Greetings:

Maybe a newer battery, but it's not uncommon for the starter to engage and then "hang up" as it attempts to overcome the increased compression of some kits. Mine does that occasionally, especially on a cold start. Kicker comes in handy...

Re: Starter DD50

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 9:15 pm
by solid808
Wheelman-111 wrote:Greetings:

Maybe a newer battery, but it's not uncommon for the starter to engage and then "hang up" as it attempts to overcome the increased compression of some kits. Mine does that occasionally, especially on a cold start. Kicker comes in handy...
I bought a charger and will see what happens.. Thank you for the help...

Re: Starter DD50

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 11:42 am
by Wheelman-111
Greetings:

I have found battery lifespan seldom exceeds 3 years in ferocious Deepinnaharta heat. Fully-charged, it should work a few times, but loses its oomph quickly. Replace or keep the kickstart lubricated.

Re: Starter DD50

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 2:14 pm
by solid808
Wheelman-111 wrote:Greetings:

I have found battery lifespan seldom exceeds 3 years in ferocious Deepinnaharta heat. Fully-charged, it should work a few times, but loses its oomph quickly. Replace or keep the kickstart lubricated.
eliminated that the battery is low lol.... It seems like the bendix gears dont want to shoot out and contact drive face... So I ordered one and will see if that works... process of elimnation huh hahha

Re: Starter DD50

Posted: Fri May 01, 2015 3:59 am
by solid808
Changed my bendix gear and all of the sudden. Presto my starter works again. Thanks again

Re: Starter DD50

Posted: Wed May 13, 2015 2:26 pm
by veedubh20
dd50/ elite (dio motor) is very famous do cracked on the block where pinion gear mount on. dont need a starter!, just go kick start.