AF05E Big Bore Kit - What size jet?
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AF05E Big Bore Kit - What size jet?
I've purchased a Polini 65cc Big Bore Kit for my 88 Elite SA50. I'm running a stock carb and everything else stock for now. I want to know what size jet to run with this setup. Also, I'm looking to run premix instead of the oil injection. I've found plugs but only for the later AF16 engine. Can someone give me a link for one for the AF05? What else do I need to do to get rid of the oil pump?
I appreciate any help thanks guys.
I appreciate any help thanks guys.
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Re: AF05E Big Bore Kit - What size jet?
Greetings:
Consider starting with a #90 jet for the PA carb with a stock airbox. Daytona sells jet kits to 105. DayWOT and perhaps VT Cycles had/has/can get them. JiangWayne.ca also stocked them at least at one time.
I'm not certain, but someone here can tell you if the pump plugs for the AF16 fit. I seem to recall they might. Try TrafficJamz? It's not ideal, but you can slip the shaft out of the pump and use the pump itself.
Consider starting with a #90 jet for the PA carb with a stock airbox. Daytona sells jet kits to 105. DayWOT and perhaps VT Cycles had/has/can get them. JiangWayne.ca also stocked them at least at one time.
I'm not certain, but someone here can tell you if the pump plugs for the AF16 fit. I seem to recall they might. Try TrafficJamz? It's not ideal, but you can slip the shaft out of the pump and use the pump itself.
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Re: AF05E Big Bore Kit - What size jet?
the Sa50 plug does fit the af05 just fine.
treats also sells honda jets now too, but not in the handy pack that daywot sells.
https://www.treatland.tv/OEM-honda-keih ... in-jet.htm
treats also sells honda jets now too, but not in the handy pack that daywot sells.
https://www.treatland.tv/OEM-honda-keih ... in-jet.htm
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Re: AF05E Big Bore Kit - What size jet?
Just to make you guys aware, those are not the stock honda jets for the pa style carburetors.turtle13 wrote:the Sa50 plug does fit the af05 just fine.
treats also sells honda jets now too, but not in the handy pack that daywot sells.
https://www.treatland.tv/OEM-honda-keih ... in-jet.htm
I purchased some and the part number is not for elite/aero/spree carbs. Look closely. Bones
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Re: AF05E Big Bore Kit - What size jet?
Good catch...I didn't notice that. Disregard my recommendation.
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Re: AF05E Big Bore Kit - What size jet?
Don't those BBKs come with a jet?
Re: AF05E Big Bore Kit - What size jet?
I ended up going with the Malossi MHR 72cc aluminum bbk from RedEft Performance on this site since it came with a main jet and carbon reeds. It did come with a main jet but I'm not sure of the size.
I also purchased the Dio oil plug and it did fit fine.
I suppose RedEft would be the one to ask about what size jet comes with the kit. Just don't want to run the new setup too lean.
I also purchased the Dio oil plug and it did fit fine.
I suppose RedEft would be the one to ask about what size jet comes with the kit. Just don't want to run the new setup too lean.
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Re: AF05E Big Bore Kit - What size jet?
Hello the Malossi kit for the af05 is actually 65cc. 65cc is the biggest bore you can get for that motor. I dont know what size the main jet is that comes with the kit. I would not rely on the jet that comes in the kit. I would suggest following wheelmans advice above.smokindon wrote:I ended up going with the Malossi MHR 72cc aluminum bbk from RedEft Performance on this site since it came with a main jet and carbon reeds. It did come with a main jet but I'm not sure of the size.
I also purchased the Dio oil plug and it did fit fine.
I suppose RedEft would be the one to ask about what size jet comes with the kit. Just don't want to run the new setup too lean.
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Re: AF05E Big Bore Kit - What size jet?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/DAYTONA-JET-6-P ... 512wt_1163
Are these the correct jets? It is confusing trying to figure out which parts will work since I have an SA50 with the AF05E
Are these the correct jets? It is confusing trying to figure out which parts will work since I have an SA50 with the AF05E
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Re: AF05E Big Bore Kit - What size jet?
yes those are the jets, the Spree, Aero, and Elite 50s all use the same jets
1986 Spree/ Eve af16 swapped 65cc Prodigy vari 8g 9:1 Ruima gears
21mm OKO 42/100 32:1 45mph kymco zx exhaust
1994 Elite S 17.5mm Arreche, Daytona reeds, SEF ramp, pump plugged
1987 Elite SE50 af16 swapped
1989 Elite E SB50p
2003 Yamaha Zuma
21mm OKO 42/100 32:1 45mph kymco zx exhaust
1994 Elite S 17.5mm Arreche, Daytona reeds, SEF ramp, pump plugged
1987 Elite SE50 af16 swapped
1989 Elite E SB50p
2003 Yamaha Zuma
Re: AF05E Big Bore Kit - What size jet?
Thanks for clarifying that for me I have them on the way I'll update later tonight when I should have the bore kit installed
1988 Honda Elite LX - AF05E w/ 65cc Malossi MHR, OKO24, CT Manifold, UNI Filter, Ruckus Variator, Custom DIY Briggs & Stratton Exhaust, Met Front & Rear Wheels, 95mm Front Brake Conversion
Re: AF05E Big Bore Kit - What size jet?
I think the stock ruckus carb even uses the same jets but dont quote me on that one
1986 Spree/ Eve af16 swapped 65cc Prodigy vari 8g 9:1 Ruima gears
21mm OKO 42/100 32:1 45mph kymco zx exhaust
1994 Elite S 17.5mm Arreche, Daytona reeds, SEF ramp, pump plugged
1987 Elite SE50 af16 swapped
1989 Elite E SB50p
2003 Yamaha Zuma
21mm OKO 42/100 32:1 45mph kymco zx exhaust
1994 Elite S 17.5mm Arreche, Daytona reeds, SEF ramp, pump plugged
1987 Elite SE50 af16 swapped
1989 Elite E SB50p
2003 Yamaha Zuma
Re: AF05E Big Bore Kit - What size jet?
It's in! Now I just have to finish cleaning the case and put everything else back together while I wait for the jets to come in.
I have the carbon reeds installed but I have seen a thread on here where a member named Bear recommended modifying the reed stop for use with the carbon reeds. Specifically, he recommended removing the portion that stops the reeds and leaving the top section where it mounts so as to prevent the reeds from cracking there. Any thoughts on trying this?
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Re: AF05E Big Bore Kit - What size jet?
I could be wrong but I think your head should be turned 90 degrees. The air won't be able to flow across them like that.
Re: AF05E Big Bore Kit - What size jet?
You are NOT wrong.JustynCRX wrote:I could be wrong but I think your head should be turned 90 degrees. The air won't be able to flow across them like that.
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