If you plan on riding for longer than a tanks-worth, what is your strategy on the road?
Are you bringing a quart of oil and measuring cup everywhere you go?
Shaking the bike at the pump?!
Towing a 55 gallon fuel drum on wheels?
1995 SA50P
pop pulley
50mm Ruima
8.44:1 gears
PG Typhoon
1500k spring
1000k Polini triples
M Keli clutch
28mm Keihin PWK
OKO Polished intake
uni filter
wiguy05 wrote:Premixing is a major pain in the * unless its a race only vehicle. Good luck!
ha. no sh1t.
1995 SA50P
pop pulley
50mm Ruima
8.44:1 gears
PG Typhoon
1500k spring
1000k Polini triples
M Keli clutch
28mm Keihin PWK
OKO Polished intake
uni filter
graphite9 wrote:Is sooo easy. I'm premix and I ride all over. Keep a 5 gal can at home already mixed. Keep a premix oil bottle with oil on it. Tell the gas guy to put exactly 1 gallon it. Since your oil bottle has oz marks on It, do the math. Its super simple I don't get why people struggle with it.
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Yeah, that's real easy????? How about a major PIA. And oil injection was created because premixing is a pain in the..... and it lends itself to engine destroying errors. Better off to keep the pump and partial premix as an error will only be half as bad. A pint or a quart bottle with oz measurement lines will work for any amount of fuel. Or even a regular quart of 2 stroke oil and a pint or 1/2 pint bottle to pour it into and measure out of.
Bear 45/70
'83 Aero 80 X 3
'84 Aero 80 X 3 '85 Aero 80 '84 Aero 125 X 2
'84 Aero 125 '84 Aero 125 X 2 '85 Aero 50
'85 Spree
I totally agree with bear. On some builds i prefer to leave the injector for ease of operation, but for my personal bikes i premix. I had a few oil injectors that blew .. not a pretty sight when you put alot of time into porting a bore. Here in hawaii we all carry a gallon gan can in our bucket and also one of these.. the measurement are is 1 oz, I also seen smaller ones that are 1/2 oz per so its easy to use. I bought mines from walmart and just dumped out what ever was in it!
Aloha
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Last edited by tru72 on Wed Jul 18, 2012 1:52 pm, edited 1 time in total.
I think Bear (who I rarely support) is simply stating it's just a pain in the a55 because:
1) There is room for error
2) You have to be able to measure on the whim (requiring a vessel to measure with)
3) It's messy and not as convenient as having the luxurious oil pump
(but we all knew this going into blocking off our oil pumps)
I think I'm going to keep a quart and a measuring cup with me so I can measure out 4 oz's per gallon
1995 SA50P
pop pulley
50mm Ruima
8.44:1 gears
PG Typhoon
1500k spring
1000k Polini triples
M Keli clutch
28mm Keihin PWK
OKO Polished intake
uni filter
tru72 wrote:I totally agree with bear. On some builds i prefer to leave the injector for ease of operation, but for my personal bikes i premix. I had a few oil injectors that blew .. not a pretty sight when you put alot of time into porting a bore. Here in hawaii we all carry a gallon gan can in our bucket and also one of these.. the measurement are is 1 oz, I also seen smaller ones that are 1/2 oz per so its easy to use. I bought mines from walmart and just dumped out what ever was in it!
Aloha
D
graphite9 wrote:Is sooo easy. I'm premix and I ride all over. Keep a 5 gal can at home already mixed. Keep a premix oil bottle with oil on it. Tell the gas guy to put exactly 1 gallon it. Since your oil bottle has oz marks on It, do the math. Its super simple I don't get why people struggle with it.
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Yeah, that's real easy????? How about a major PIA. And oil injection was created because premixing is a pain in the..... and it lends itself to engine destroying errors. Better off to keep the pump and partial premix as an error will only be half as bad. A pint or a quart bottle with oz measurement lines will work for any amount of fuel. Or even a regular quart of 2 stroke oil and a pint or 1/2 pint bottle to pour it into and measure out of.
Your a veteran scooter god and you struggle with premix?...im confused. Its cake walk. Seriously.
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I was premixing before your daddy was a gleam in his daddy's eye. Don't tell me I don't know about premixing. I don't struggle with it, I just fine it stupid to discard a major improvement to over a system that was found to be unacceptable.
Bear 45/70
'83 Aero 80 X 3
'84 Aero 80 X 3 '85 Aero 80 '84 Aero 125 X 2
'84 Aero 125 '84 Aero 125 X 2 '85 Aero 50
'85 Spree
Chicago Ben wrote:I think Bear (who I rarely support) is simply stating it's just a pain in the a55 because:
1) There is room for error
2) You have to be able to measure on the whim (requiring a vessel to measure with)
3) It's messy and not as convenient as having the luxurious oil pump
(but we all knew this going into blocking off our oil pumps)
I think I'm going to keep a quart and a measuring cup with me so I can measure out 4 oz's per gallon
Bear 45/70
'83 Aero 80 X 3
'84 Aero 80 X 3 '85 Aero 80 '84 Aero 125 X 2
'84 Aero 125 '84 Aero 125 X 2 '85 Aero 50
'85 Spree
I carry a gallon gas can and a quart of oil, the kind I get is Lucas Performance in a clear quart bottle with 4oz increments on the side. Since I live in the country I cant just stop at the next gas station when I am crusin a backroad
1986 Spree/ Eve af16 swapped 65cc Prodigy vari 8g 9:1 Ruima gears
21mm OKO 42/100 32:1 45mph kymco zx exhaust
1994 Elite S 17.5mm Arreche, Daytona reeds, SEF ramp, pump plugged
1987 Elite SE50 af16 swapped
1989 Elite E SB50p
2003 Yamaha Zuma
graphite9 wrote:You do realize that would make you about 125 years old right?
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I started mixing gas and oil in the early 50's because there was no other option, it was a PIA then and still is and it is messy. Some days I feel at least 125 years old. OK, then before you were a gleam in your daddy's eye. Happy now, anyway I did it and still do it for my antique outboards and it is still a PIA, I never said I couldn't do it.
Bear 45/70
'83 Aero 80 X 3
'84 Aero 80 X 3 '85 Aero 80 '84 Aero 125 X 2
'84 Aero 125 '84 Aero 125 X 2 '85 Aero 50
'85 Spree