Winter riding?
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Winter riding?
So I live outside of Chicago and was wondering if anyone is keeping it real and riding through the seasons.
We've had quite a bit of snow so far, and it's been very cold. But when it warms up to 30 deg F I was considering riding. However I'm a little reserved about the idea. What about salt? black ice? traction with cold tires?
How about you Michigan guys
Oh yeah! One more thing, my blue demon was ridden by Crazy Z, a friend of mine, over the summer and got really good at the wheelies.
So he enrolled in a "Scooter jump competition" in the south side and hit 4 feet of air! And it still runs!
We've had quite a bit of snow so far, and it's been very cold. But when it warms up to 30 deg F I was considering riding. However I'm a little reserved about the idea. What about salt? black ice? traction with cold tires?
How about you Michigan guys
Oh yeah! One more thing, my blue demon was ridden by Crazy Z, a friend of mine, over the summer and got really good at the wheelies.
So he enrolled in a "Scooter jump competition" in the south side and hit 4 feet of air! And it still runs!
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Cold air will lean it out, but its to d*** cold out to overheat.Kenny_McCormic wrote:Dont ride in anything slick, dry roads only. Watch your jetting, cold air will lean it out and cause a meltdown.
it evens it self out.
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yup exactly, on AC 2t you're throwing much cooler temp air at the engineDac wrote:Cold air will lean it out, but its to d*** cold out to overheat.Kenny_McCormic wrote:Dont ride in anything slick, dry roads only. Watch your jetting, cold air will lean it out and cause a meltdown.
it evens it self out.
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Wintry Lean Times
Greetings:
Sorry, I just don't buy the winter lean thing. Denser air is being sucked through the venturi, to be sure. However that will have the effect of increasing the pressure gradient at the fuel inlets as well. Fluid dynamics are hard to predict, but the net result should be a higher fuel draw at least partially compensating for the more abundant oxygen.
I suspect your boggy running is more likely the result of carb icing or an engine that simply can't reach nominal operating temperature.
Consider raising your needle before you swap jets. If that fails to improve things maybe that towel should go over the cooling shroud.... But watch your engine temperatures carefully.
I once owned a first-generation Mazda GLC. Little 1300 4 engine with a thin-walled aluminum block. Driving at highway speeds in -35 degree weather, the engine practically stopped a few times until I discovered that covering 3/4 of the grille with cardboard solved the problem. Trucks & school buses up North have zippered grill covers to achieve the same ends.
Sorry, I just don't buy the winter lean thing. Denser air is being sucked through the venturi, to be sure. However that will have the effect of increasing the pressure gradient at the fuel inlets as well. Fluid dynamics are hard to predict, but the net result should be a higher fuel draw at least partially compensating for the more abundant oxygen.
I suspect your boggy running is more likely the result of carb icing or an engine that simply can't reach nominal operating temperature.
Consider raising your needle before you swap jets. If that fails to improve things maybe that towel should go over the cooling shroud.... But watch your engine temperatures carefully.
I once owned a first-generation Mazda GLC. Little 1300 4 engine with a thin-walled aluminum block. Driving at highway speeds in -35 degree weather, the engine practically stopped a few times until I discovered that covering 3/4 of the grille with cardboard solved the problem. Trucks & school buses up North have zippered grill covers to achieve the same ends.
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Most of my money is spent on scooterparts. The rest is just wasted.
"ISO": '03 Vespa ET4 Malossi187 74MPH
Flash 9: 2001 Elite SR Contesta 72 ZX Tran, 9:1 Gears, Stock Airbox/Carb/Pipe 58.8 MPH
Punkin: 2010 Vespa/Malossi S78, 61MPH
I was working on the Pal and have both a head temp and exhaust temp gauge on it. The weather cooled off a bit and it just would not run right. The problem turned out to the the cylinder was not getting up to temp. After about a mile the head and exhaust temp would slowly come up and then it would take off.
For cold weather riding try a little duct tape to block off part of the cooling intake on the engine cover. It shouldn't take long to figure out how much to block off.
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For cold weather riding try a little duct tape to block off part of the cooling intake on the engine cover. It shouldn't take long to figure out how much to block off.
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